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I think we’re at the point where this hardly matters.
- Make backups? No, they’ve been encrypted for decades.
- Slot in a game so you don’t have to juggle the internal limited storage? No, you have to copy disc contents to storage anyway.
- Use disc data to avoid needing to download on slow internet? No, already made meaningless by enormous day 1 patches.
- Keep access to media when accounts may be banned and digital titles may be revoked? No, the always-online games can be deactivated whenever the publisher wants. There’s no reason to expect them to permit your console to play disallowed offline games either. “Age assurance” is going to come for games, and if your account doesn’t have the flag, your 18+ disc won’t work.
It’s sad for discs to be discontinued, but it’s just formalising what’s already true.
I guess what they intend with this move is to kill the second-hand games market. The absolute bastards.
lol I’m just going to assume that the people I’m seeing online taking the contrarian position are bots because what else can you do
You will own nothing and will like it.
Doesn’t PlayStation still delete some of the games digital games they’ve had in the past, rendering your purchases completely useless? I remember this happening with a couple of my ps4 games I bought as a teen and can only imagine that it has gotten worse
I don’t know why I’m pretending to be shocked, I genuinely feel like the average person just doesn’t understand this and the average console gamer just continues to fall in line as they complain about the newest edition of 2K being the same as the last ten of whatever
So PS6 is in 2028 and will not come with a physical drive reader so they can cut off access to anything at anytime for whatever reason. Also you need to show your government issued ID which will totally never be used to lock down your media or surveillance your activities.
Even with a physical drive reader they can still cut off access at any time. Tbh I never really understood the value of a physical disc when its contents are heavily encrypted and this is the natural path for proprietary consoles where regular internet access is enforced and you can lose the “privilege” to play the game you bought at a whim anyways.
Resale value. You can’t buy discounted used copies of digital games.
Good point.
Yeah, DRM with or without the internet is a major problem in this space and the “physical only” people refuse to even consider this aspect.
Sure but with a physical disk the data can be dumped and cracked with enough time/effort
I think the era of functioning application shipped on the disk is kinda over so dumping the data on it wont count for much anyway. Knowing sony though they’ll never learn how to not make a crackable console considering their track record for this.
There are still lots of games that run from the disc. I just got the BG3 collector’s edition that came with two disc’s for that reason, same thing with Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, and others. I’ve played my Dark Souls 3 disc copy when I was going a little crazy from an internet outage before. There’s others. It’s mostly single-player of course, and you’ll miss day one or future patches, but they exist.
I mostly know this because I’m a console player and unless it’s free to play or extremely cheap, I always buy disc’s, and usually used.
disks are cool until your dvd drive catches fire like that one gta streamer
Hasn’t happened so far thankfully lol
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They just pulled 500+ movies users had purchased from their libraries.
They are also shutting down ps3 and vita stores next year, downloads will not work after that. I would definitely not be buying a new console unless it was hacked/has cfw.
You know what, I’m glad I’m avoiding all this drama by no longer buying consoles and just sticking to steam; last consoles I got was the PS3 and the Xbox360 and I haven’t had them plugged in for years. I’ve got ancient games on both GOG and steam and there’s little fear of anything in my library being kept from me or taken from me.
I mean this is just Sony doing what valve did twenty years ago. Steam is no better
Yes, but short of PS exclusives, steam has a far larger library and I just need the PC I was always going to have rather than going out of my way to buy a console; also more than just this story, apparently Sony is taking away people’s movies that they paid for. If I buy something on steam or GOG, 99.99% of the time I’m keeping it for life (there’s apparently a handful of games that were taken off stores AND people’s libraries).
EDIT: Additionally Sony is apparently shutting down their…PS3 stores? I’m not sure if this means your digital PS3 games can no longer be downloaded, if the store will no longer work on the PS3. Even if it only means it won’t work on the PS3 any more, it means my PS3 will only be good for playing hard copy games I own.
much much easier to defeat steam drm than hack a locked down console.
At least both of those can be hacked with relative ease now
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If buying something isn’t owning it then piracy isn’t stealing
I feel like consoles are gonna face problems when products like Steam Machine become more available and cheaper. Ignoring the crazy hardware prices right now, I would gladly pay $100 more for reasonably worse performance if it means the console, which has the potential to be a full fledged computer, is arbitrarily locked to essentially become a machine that milks me for Sony Entertainment Ltd.
I can’t listen to music on my PS5 because I don’t want to use spotify. It has no browser, cannot copy saved games etc. Something like Steam Machine on the other hand lets you mod your games, has access to multiple storefronts including DRM free ones.
a machine that milks me for Sony Entertainment Ltd.
there’s genuinely a lot of sales in third world countries for people that consider resale value essential and/or have bad internet connection. fuck them i guess?? small markets dominated by PC and console piracy are not profitable i suppose
This, like many other things, is likely driven by like 50% of all economic activity coming from 10% of the population. You no longer need to bother marketing to the poor, because they have no money. So instead just jack prices and sell only to that 10% who have all the money.
K shaped economy type shit
Ah yes, I cannot wait until everything in gaming is license based and cloud based. You will subscribe and download every publisher’s launcher, peon. You will buy a game and accept the fact that the publisher can just revoke it out of your library at any time. You will pay $1,000 for a console that won’t let you play games you bought from the previous console.
And of course, if you have no internet for some reason or are in a place with poor internet connection, fuck you.
How about I keep my $1000 and play the PS2 library instead. I don’t want ultra-realistic wrinkle textures!
Me in 2040: “Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.”
I havent cared about consoles in a long time (PC only gamer ) but I feel for the people who enjoy playing on consoles since the future over there looks kinda shitty.
I remember when Sony made a big show of keeping physical discs for the PS4 at E3 a decade ago. Guess we’re not getting a big presentation on stage for this one
speaking of gaffes, i can’t wait for the $999 song when new console prices are announced. maybe there’ll be a new giant enemy crab too.
Rip second hand market you will be missed
No wonder GameStop converted to mainly toys and trading cards
I mean they can just… keep selling stuff second hand for another while
That makes the decision to get the next Playstation REALLY easy.
