it’d be more than thousands of people. but the thing is, when productivity is increased and more wealth is generated and people aren’t needed to do certain jobs anymore we have more free time or time to focus on stuff that we like or stuff that’s more productive like other work, that’s a good thing. the problem is when that excess wealth is generated it only going in the hands of the few. i would say it would be a good idea to tax the robots that start replacing jobs so that the wealth is spread amongst the people that lost their jobs and not just into the hands of the wealthy few. andrew yang talked about this a lot back in 2020 and a lot of what he predicted came true. he proposed a universal basic income to help redistribute wealth.

i think people should still be allowed to own their own cars, but getting rid of the need to own cars with cheap self driving transportation as an option sounds good to me. more options is always better. not everyone can afford to own their own car either. and if it also reduces deaths because self driving cars are better at driving it will also be a public service.

basically not having to pay delivery drivers, the work itself is cheaper, so they can lower costs. a lot of times high costs is due to operational costs which includes employees and if operational costs are brought down prices on things like doordash would go down too.

well the theory of how self driving cars would eventually become is if you have an app that can order a self driving vehicle, the closest one to you will be there for you. you can set the time you need it ready by and it will be there. we kinda already do that now with transportation apps, but with self driving cars i think it would be more efficient. idk. i guess owning, driving, and parking your own car will probably always be a little faster because its in the parking lot of your store or of your house right where you left it, but it wouldn’t be that much faster.

You were saying people wouldn’t create without copyright. And yet, copyright didn’t exist for much of humanity. Therefore, copyright is not necessary for people to create. If it was, they wouldn’t have created all the stuff they did.

my claim isn’t that people wouldn’t create. that’s preposterous. my claim is that people wouldn’t create as much and it would encourage more spinoffs of existing ideas, (ideas better than the people making spinoffs could’ve made on their own) and less incentive to create your own new IPs. world building is a huge thing in creating IPs. someone might be a great story teller, but lack the ability to build worlds. that person could essentially steal the world building skill of someone else and make their own better story in that other person’s world with their characters and make more profit than the original creator. you might say “sure, that means better content is created” but i’m more concerned about what’s fair and if the original creator is satisfactorily compensated. to me, the only way they will get compensated fairly is if they own their own worlds and have the ability to either keep profiting off it on their own or sell them. that’s what’s fair to me at least.

And they can still profit by creating new work, or selling people the authentic copy. People go see live music despite video existing. People buy designer bags despite bootlegs existing.>

tell that to a guy like george RR martin, or JK rowling, or whoever created dune that “okay, it’s been seven years. now everyone can make stuff in your own universe that you spent your entire time world building and can make money off your universe without your permission. you had 7 years, your time to make money on it is up. if someone can make a better story in your universe it’s theirs now for them to make profit on.”

If anyone can write a spiderman comic, then the ones that are the best will presumably do the best.>

not necessarily but i’ll agree with the premise. that still fucks over the original author who came up with the idea.

it seems like half the people here are here from being banned off reddit though.

through the entirety of human history rape, theft, slavery, and all other horrors were common. we outlawed them. things existing throughout human history is not an argument. also in terms of copyright length i agree there should be a time limit but seven years seems way too short. even george RR martin’s work was 30 years in the making. do you think after george RR martin released his first book 7 years after that everyone else could make their own ASOIAF books, movies, tv shows, etc without having to get permission or compensate george in any way? i feel like this is shafting the creator

what do you mean?

i feel like you’re making assumptions here that i said her value only comes from her beauty. i think beauty adds to value but it’s not the only thing that matters for women OR men either for that matter. she clearly is going through the surgeries and anorexia because she cares about her appearance, so why is stating she still looks fine and isn’t ugly a bad thing? imo beauty does give you some value at least in a superficial sense. we aren’t robots, we have attraction to things and a positive attraction is a positive value.

what your suggesting would require a rework of our entire economic system and pretty much most economic systems which are market economies. people create things because of the value they can get from it. (that’s not the only reason but it’s a large driver of it). if people can’t profit off making a new IP, say like a new book for example with a whole new universe and characters, many people would stop writing new books in new IPs.

you’re basically proposing socialism for IPs, which i don’t think would be a conducive environment for people to want to make new IPs and would just lead to people creating constant spinoffs of other peoples creative ideas without an original thought of their own and without rewarding the original creator. there has to be some incentive to make something of your own, and right now that incentive is ownership and monetizing of that IP.

didn’t say that’s all that matters. just wanted to point out she wasn’t hideous. i feel like people are reacting like she’s ugly now when she’s not. if she were reading this i’d want to reassure her that she’s still got beauty and she might be unhealthy now and it’s affecting her appearance but it isn’t game over for her, she’s still attractive and she can fix this and still be healthier and better looking. like it isn’t all doom and gloom for her

i mean YES, she is anorexic and probably has an eating disorder. she’s still cute though, just not as cute as she was before. i think a lot of it has to do with how celebrities that were beautiful dont come to terms and deal well with aging, so they try to get surgeries and go anorexic and shit like that trying to look 20 when they’re 35. they need to let go.

bro it’ll be here i hope in at least 10 years. then we wont need to buy cars, we can just call a self driving uber and it’ll be cheaper.

interesting. thank you. when i was on reddit i would go to r/debate r/changemyview and subreddits like that where i could have discussions. are there lemmy subreddits for debates cause i’m not really finding any. thanks for the reply. on the plus side, of the two comments i left on lemmy they both got replies, so i was glad it wasn’t like twitter where you leave a comment on a large post and nobody interacts with 99% of your comments there. that’s nice and part of what i liked about reddit. good to know lemmy has people replying to each other here too.

when self driving cars get here these jobs will all be gone and delivery will be super cheap. i can’t wait.

just came to this site after getting banned off reddit… it has some nice features… BUT idk if i understand it correctly or not. i’m on lemmy.zip, if a subreddit on here isn’t bundled with together with my lemmy server will i not see it? will i still be able to interact with it? curious how it works.

deadass? LOL

is this due to the steam machine? i heard it’s linux based.

I liked @givesomefucks comment. That copyright should last 14 years, (to me maybe idk that seems a little short but whatever) and then they can apply for extensions. if intellectual property is open to the public after just a couple years then nobody who put all the time, energy, and creativity that could’ve taken 10+ years of hard work (think GRRM’s ASOIAF) could be stolen and anyone could make any fan fiction and sell it within the universe he created without them having ever to have had to put in the work or had the talent that GRRM had himself.