I am aware of the ā€œglock legā€ phenomenon, and that can likely be attributed to striker fires replacing classic handguns at the time.

But the P320 was introduced multiple decades after the Glock. And by this time, other striker fire handguns have entered the market and widely used. Cops use Glock and M&P, and as far as I can tell, there hasnā€™t been a multi-year slew of accusations against either models of ā€œaccidentally going offā€ in recent times. Glock is also the most popular handgun globally, and we donā€™t hear other countries blaming Glock or other popular striker fire pistols accidentally going off (though we donā€™t hear them complain about Sig either)

Sig has unofficially recalled and retooled peopleā€™s P320s a few times now. It also had a confirmed drop safety issue (I donā€™t remember if it was acknowledged though). I donā€™t think Glock nor SW or other major manufacturer have done anything to this scale nor have complaints and lawsuits and negative press attention wrt safety issues recently.

The P320 is fully cocked and often without manual safeties for cops and civilians (soldiers have manual safeties; I donā€™t think there have been complaints here). The M&P may or may not be fully cocked back as well (forums say different things and SW hasnā€™t confirmed anything), yet M&P isnā€™t on the news for shooting copsā€™ dicks off. But, they have a hinge/nub trigger safety on every pistol as well as manual safeties (removable) and the typical internal striker fire internal safeties. I believe the P320 omits some of those internal safeties but donā€™t remember which. The designer of the P320 has even testified that American gun safety design standards are almost nonexistent because itā€™s illegal for the government to enforce on manufacturers.

I donā€™t know. The modern and widespread Sig Sauer company is not German. It is American, and the P320 is designed by yanks. Swiss Sig manufactures rifles primarily for the Swiss market, and the Swiss/German P220 series is widely acclaimed. Funny how when it moves to America and designed according to American standards that suddenly thereā€™s a wave of safety controversy.

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      Probably doesnā€™t help that these new Sigs are the only striker-fire 9mm pistols that donā€™t have a trigger safety, afaik.

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        I know very little about firearms, but I thought I read something recently that suggested Sigā€™s manufacturing quality has nosedived in recent years as well

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          Sig pistols won a military contract competition before it was even over lol. I think Glock sued them and/or the US government for fraud which is ironic because Glock is full of fraudulent and shady activities. But the lack of any external safeties is a selling point of the police and civilian P320 market

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      The firing pin block system has to be perfect. Any failure in that system makes the gun dangerous.

      Luckily, as a country with a heavy gun culture, the government will punish companies that make guns unnecessarily dangerous and hamper our ability to enjoy and trust firearms anakin-padme-2

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    I think a part of it is how new the P320 is. Glocks had a similar reputation in the early 80ā€™s - 90ā€™s, with over 120 accidental discharges in the Washington Metropolitan Police Department from 1988 to 1998 for example. In my opinion, I think itā€™s mostly NDā€™s and cops attempting to cover their asses. Hereā€™s an opinion piece from 2015 talking about how unsafe Glocks are: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-owens-glock-accidents-20150508-story.html. Also, hereā€™s a link discussing the ā€œsafetyā€ of Glocks and a reference to a trigger recall with some pretty good diagrams: https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/glock-trigger/

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      I am aware of the ā€œglock legā€ phenomenon, and that can likely be attributed to striker fires replacing classic handguns at the time.

      But the P320 was introduced multiple decades after the Glock. And by this time, other striker fire handguns have entered the market and widely used. Cops use Glock and M&P, and as far as I can tell, there hasnā€™t been a multi-year slew of accusations against either models of ā€œaccidentally going off.ā€*

      The P320 shouldnā€™t be any different than any of the other striker fire guns that have been in service before it. If the mechanics are ā€œtoo newā€ then itā€™s really incredible that they managed to become the military and copsā€™ supplier and have the largest market share in the US when Glock and others have more solid reputations in recent decades.

      *in recent years