In one of the most iconic moments coming out of World Youth Day, Pope Francis called on the hundreds of thousands gathered before him to yell back at him that the Catholic Church is for “todos, todos, todos” – everyone, everyone, everyone.
“Everyone is welcome here, even the gays. They’re just lesser members who can’t actually participate in the sacraments. But they’re still welcome! They’re just like, 3/5ths welcome…”
- the Catholic Church, probably
“They’re welcome here, they’re just going to hell if they don’t un-gay themselves.”
Taking questions from reporters aboard his flight back to Rome after a five-day trip to Portugal, the pope was asked how he could reconcile his “todos” message with the fact that LGBTQ+ people are excluded from the sacraments. The pope answered the Church has laws, but is still a place for everyone.
Non-answers to appease all, as always.
Yup, just proves that he’s still just a piece of shit at the end of the day.
So sex outside marriage is a mortal sin, and we still aren’t allowed to get married in the Catholic Church. Got it.
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Yeah, I, as a queer person who grew up in a Catholic country, always felt very welcome
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It’s easy and cheap for him to just claim “it’s for everyone” without actually doing anything to address the bigotry, systemic issues, and culture surrounding the religion. I get the impression this is by intent.
“the pope was asked how he could reconcile his “todos” message with the fact that LGBTQ+ people are excluded from the sacraments. The pope answered the Church has laws, but is still a place for everyone.”
Equal but different.
it’s for everyone, and yet they won’t update their “rules” to actually include them.
“But they still go to Hell forever.”
IANAP but nobody goes to hell in Catholicism. Big Catholic doesn’t want you to know but in order to go to hell you need to sin without guilt but there’s a technicality that you cannot sin without your soul feeling some guilt since the holy spirit resides within and will always experience guilt at the sin committed it means you’re good.
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There is a hell, i.e. all those who die in personal mortal sin, as enemies of God, and unworthy of eternal life, will be severely punished by God after death.
From the Catholic Encyclopedia.
Now I’m not clear from Google whether or not gay sex is a mortal sin, but it seems like it’s leaning on yes. Just being gay might not send you to Hell in Catholicism, but acting on it? Sounds like maybe.
What a stupid religion, “hey you have free will and I totally gave it to you, BUT I SWEAR TO MYSELF ILL TORTURE YOU FOR LIFE IF YOU DO THINGS I DON’T LIKE ARBITRARILY!”
Also “I’m all powerful and created the entire universe but if you little ants on this one little rock don’t worship me, I’ll condemn you to eternal damnation!”
So they just treat you like shit because they want to. Got it.
Yeah, ok, sure Francis.
PR pope says PR talking point. Jorge Mario Bergoglio was a piece of shit homophobic bigot, long before he was made pope. Still refuses to meet or acknowledge the victims of his clergy. He’s nothing but talk, and not even his own followers listen to him. Go to any third world country full of Catholics and see if they treat LGBT people well because the pope said so.
Also, how does he claim to be pro lgbt while passing decrees that prevent priests from blessing same sex unions?
Oh yes, it’s for everyone alright. You’re welcome to join, please help save the crumbling membership numbers, but you can never be close to equal and will never have the same rights. But it’s totally for everyone.
Great, now ask most Catholics what they think of this idea.
How self loathing can a person be?
“I need to pick a religion, but I can’t decide which… oh, yes, Catholicism looks good.”
You 👏 don’t 👏 need 👏 religion. Just live your life. Make genuine connections with friends. Be good to everyone. Try to leave the world better than it would have been without you. No magic required.
The magic isn’t even real.
Everyone including pedophiles?
Uh… From what I’ve seen in the news, especially the pedophiles.
No it fucking isn’t. Fuck the pope.
Actions speak louder than words.
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Good for Pope Francis.
