Hmm, but I did not agree to those privacy policies nor was I provided with a copy.
This seems like potential grounds for a lawsuit. Anyone have an idea how to demonstrate harm?
I’m pretty sure the EU GDPR requires explicit & clear consent for data collection.
That’s up to a £17.5m fine or 4% of your annual turnover, whichever is higher
That’s nothing.
100% of last years profit. Make them almost die the first time and utterly ruin them if they do it a second.
Sick of these insignificant fines that do nothing to stop these companies.
Its not even borderline ridiculous. The fines are so low they just incorporate them into operating costs. Jail the entire executive suit and board if a company does this shit, no bail.
I highlighted turnover deliberately. 4% of any company’s turnover is absolutely not something that can be rolled into BAU running costs.
Not least of all, if a company doesn’t fix the violations, they’ll come for it again with a fresh 4% fine.
Edit: typo
this makes me love my bike even more
With phones, doorbells, TVs, cars, and more all recording constantly, will there be any space left that offers actual privacy?
Back to Cave
Can’t they just make dumb EVs for now? I mean we don’t have to go all out Starks Enterprises with every EV to attract customers. I still need buttons and things i can feel while driving.
Not related to EVs at all. Every new, feature rich car, is like this.
Camera systems for semi-autonomous driving, blind spot warnings, and parking assist. Always on cellular connections for maps, navigation, and roadside assistance. The tech has been in most cars for a decade or more. It’s the last 5ish years the manufactures realized they could collect all the data and have another revenue stream.They must be loving it, charging customers for 5 subscriptions for 1 car, then sending all that users data from using those subscriptions to advertisers for more profit.
ok.
does this issue not affect EVs or something?
All cars. Mostly newer models.
The problem is tech is cheap, especially software. Even moreso when the data you gain is so valuable.
Does anyone know of a resource for figuring out where the SIM cards are in all these modern cars? You really can have all the privacy you want if you remove the ability of these spywheels to call home.
Why wouldn’t they be an eSIM?
fair point!
Next best thing would be to install a little Faraday cage over the cellular antenna.
Or just remove it entirely.
Probably the equivalent of where the Death Star’s weakness lies. Hard to reach on purpose.
For sure – but I’m not asking if average joe-asshole can figure out which end of the screwdriver works best. I’m asking if there’s resources for where in the car the black boxes live. Service manuals - ect.
There is. On my toyota it was called the DCM telematics module. Had its own fuse so it was super easy to disable.
interesting! was there any persistent warnings or error messages that popped up or did it just keep on trucking without any user prompting?
The car mic and one of the right side speakers stopped working. The ota updates also stopped arriving, and toyota stopped sending me emails about where my car had been / how long it was driven. The emergency button which calls the toyota help line is also broken now.
There were no warnings from my car at all after i pulled the fuse.
There’s some forum posts about rewiring the speaker back into the system - apparently you only need an extra plug, a little bit of wiring skills, and access through the glove box to get it working again. I havent personally done it yet, but ill get around to it at some point.
Wow! That speaker bit is the most interesting thing to me. It means that the speaker itself is powered or pre-amped in some fashion which makes so very little sense to me. Is the fix simply putting a wire from a->b bypassing the fuse?
Yeah, it goes through the emergency call system, but just connecting the wires and leaving the dcm box alone is supposed to fix it. I have the forum post saved if you wanna look; https://www.toyotanation.com/threads/how-do-i-locate-the-dcm-telematics-unit-on-a-2020-corolla.1693507/#post-14400614
Sorry to say but I bet they are eSim
Confirms my bias to not buy newer cars than the early 2010s. My last new car was a 2011. It is just right with OEM Bluetooth hands free but navigation etc is handled by the phone. The controls are still knobs and buttons. Not a screen in sight
Yikes…
Well, this finally gives a reason to be grateful that my vehicle is a very old hand-me-down
What do they mean by “genetic information”?
Hey NAL but that is not legal.
My privacy policy of charging 100mill per bit of data collected is valid if it was.
Researchers found data is being gathered by sensors, microphones, cameras, and the phones and devices drivers connect to their cars, as well as by car apps, company websites, dealerships, and vehicle telematics. Brands can then share or sell this data to third parties. Car brands can also take much of this data and use it to develop inferences about a driver’s intelligence, abilities, characteristics, preferences, and more.
What the actual crispy-fried fuck is this? Drivers intelligence? Sexual activity?!?
Sounds like any iPhone or Android with Google out there.
