Yeah without the guidance of a socialist party though, the changes caused by massive decreases in material conditions are … unappealing.

It is our duty to organize wherever we are, and this is an opportunity in spite of everything else about it.

only thing that will cause change is a massive decrease in peoples material conditions

this is just giving up but communistly. we don’t really know what’s going to work because every revolution is different. all we can do is try. and frankly talking to libs is the least we can do.