Drag is trans, and uses person-independent neopronouns. These can be confusing for some people. But drag is patient, and with the vast majority of people is not pushy with drag’s pronouns at all. In return, the vast majority of people tend to take no issue with drag. However, some people decide to invent a problem because they see drag using drag’s pronouns, and it makes them angry.

Drag has a problem with one of these people, a pawb.social user called Draconic_NEO. Drag would normally just send a report, and drag is in the process of doing that, but the level of harassment has elevated to abuse of mod powers, and drag feels the need to inform the pawb.social admins of this user, as well as giving full context to the issue.

A week ago, drag created a thread on the db0 instance regarding a wrongful ban. Here is the context of drag’s comments which lead to the ban:

Drag has used HTML to restore the deleted comments in the thread to save you time checking the modlog. As you can see, someone insults drag for drag’s style of talking, and drag merely explains what is going on. Some people are unfamiliar with first person neopronouns, and drag patiently explains. The first removed comment is actually drag answering a direct question from another user. A moderator of the community decided that a trans person explaining their pronouns is rulebreaking behaviour, and drag posted about it on db0’s “power tripping bastards” community. Drag didn’t choose the name of that community, it’s just the only place to complain about bad mod decisions.

Here is Draconic_NEO’s take on the original ban:

Please understand that drag did not pivot the conversation to dragself, or display any aggression in the thread. Someone insulted drag for using neopronouns, and drag patiently explained. Draconic_NEO is, in this comment, inventing a narrative that a trans person’s pronouns are an attack on others for the sake of attention-seeking. This is a transphobic cliche. The complaint that drag’s use of neopronouns somehow makes drag similar to some troll is… nonsense? Drag doesn’t get it, but it seems to be a core part of Draconic_NEO’s argument that someone else was apparently a neopronoun user in the past, and now everyone else has a license to hate neopronoun users.

And here is Draconic_NEO in the same thread, attacking the entire concept of nounself pronouns. Here are some resources on nounself pronouns, which are an established part of queer culture and what drag’s pronouns would probably fall under:

https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Nounself_pronouns
https://pronoun.fandom.com/wiki/Nounself_Pronouns
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nounself-pronoun
https://edition.cnn.com/us/neopronouns-explained-xe-xyr-wellness-cec/index.html

For someone who uses the nounself pronoun “leaf,” that may look like: “I hope leaf knows how proud we are that leaf is getting to know leafself better!” or “Leaf arrived at the coffee shop before me; I was mortified to have been late to meet leaf.”

As you can see, nounself pronouns are prominent enough in the queer culture to be referenced on CNN and even dictionary.com. Attacks on the idea of nounself pronouns are, in a word, transphobic.

Drag will stop posting excerpts from the thread here, because the reason this post isn’t just a report, is that drag can’t report all of Draconic_NEO’s harassment.

All four of these communities are moderated by Draconic_NEO, with nobody above them but the admins to tell: Drag has never posted or commented on or even seen these communities before. Drag didn’t know they existed. Lemmy UI doesn’t even have a button to do that. You have to manually make an HTTP request yourself in order to do it. This took effort, this took work. And the only possible reason to do it, is to create a record across all of Lemmy of a single user’s grievances that anyone will see when they search that particular user.

And it’s already happened. People look at modlogs, and they trust moderaters. The barrier to entry to becoming moderator of a dozen no-name communities is zero, but the authority of being able to create a permanent record on which to tell whatever lies you like and be believed by many people, is powerful. And drag can’t report these modlog decisions to the admins. Drag can’t reason with somebody who has a basic hostility towards trans people who use nounself pronouns, and who invents stories about imagined violence by trans people.

Transphobia is against the rules on pawb.social. Harassment is against the rules. Spreading misinformation is against the rules. Drag wants all of this to stop, please.

    • Draconic NEO@pawb.socialEnglish
      81·
      3 months ago

      Do you stand by your statement that trans people shouldn’t use nounself pronouns?

      Now I know you are not acting in good faith because I never said that. But let’s break down why you are banned piece by piece so there’s zero ambiguity.

      “DroneRights 2.0” - Gives people a frame of reference to understand what it looks like

      “trolling” - Describes the nature of the behavior you’ve exhibited over the past few days

      “accusations of transphobia” - You have regularly been accusing people of being transphobic for calling you out on bad behavior, and for moderative actions.

      “obscene NSFW username” - Do I need to explain why “Dragonfucker” is an NSFW username?

      Do you stand by your statement that when people decide to make unprovoked insults against drag for using neopronouns, that is drag changing the subject?

      Wow the sealioning and bad faith accusations just keep on coming. You were called a troll because your behavior indicates that of a troll, the language you use is a factor but it is only one of many factors. The other factors were the trolling and the harassment towards others, which you clearly haven’t stopped, you’re doing it right now. Then of course there’s your more recent incursions in the trans communities, which I already addressed on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com and you think the main complaint against you is pronouns? This is literally what DroneRights did, they would start shit and harass other people then claim peopel who called them out were being transphobic, it’s what you’re doing right now. Just in a less direct and more sealioning way.

      Drag still has not complained, at all, about you not using drag’s pronouns. Drag’s post here is concerned with your statements against all nounself using trans people, your perception that trans people’s existence is an attack on others, and your harassment of drag by banning drag from random communities drag has never visited.

      I’ve said that nounself pronouns are difficult and unintuitive for a lot of people, which they are, I am not shaming people for using them. Many people who do use them also use other pronouns or allow people to use their name because it is hard for some people, especially people with speech and language problems. Now you don’t want to use other pronouns, but also your username is extremely NSFW, which makes it not an option especially in places where it would be inapropriate, and you’ve already expressed discontent about nicknames so you’re basically asking people to not to refer to you at all.

      Drag is curious why you didn’t say anything about your own actions in your comment, and just changed the subject to your perceived wrongdoing by drag. Do statements against thousands of trans people’s pronouns become okay when you have a story to tell about one single trans person doing a bad thing? You justified attacks on drag by pointing at this Drone Rights person, and now you’re justifying attacks on others by pointing at your stories about drag. Is that your opinion; that no trans person should do anything you don’t like if a bad trans person did it? That you’re allowed to harass drag for the actions of others?

      aaand can’t stop sealioning.