One of these two entities actually lets me own my games. To where I can install them from local files even without an internet connection. One of these entities leases me games that I can install with an internet connection as long as they see fit. They are not the same.
Learning that steam may delist a game if its offered by another store for cheaper has definitely soured my opinion of them. GOG should make a native installer though.
That only applies if you’re selling Steam keys in the other store. If you sell access via other means (like direct download), you can price them however you want. Hence, thousands of itch.io games that are cheaper than their Steam versions.
Short of evidence for your claim, I’ll roll with the fact that, to my knowledge, there has never been a case of an itch.io game being bullied out of being cheaper than its Steam version.
I made the claim and provided evidence. You have yet to refute it in any meaningful way and have only provided conjecture. If you have proof the email isn’t real feel free to share it. You’re also free to look up the emails yourself if you feel they would prove me wrong.
GOG released a Windows client, but no Linux client. My problem is with being treated worse than a Windows user.
In comparison, itch.io has no Windows client and no Linux client (in part because some of the stuff they sell is not software). So I have no problem buying through itch.io.
I can sort of understand why GOG has no Linux client. Have you noticed how there are differences among the distros? I use Arch (by the way), another Linux user uses Debian, the other uses Slackware, the other uses Enlightenment OS, the other uses RHEL, and so on. There are lots of flavors, structures, package managers, display managers… Some distros still use X11 instead of the newer Wayland… How to deal with so many differences? Whereas a Windows system is generally not so different from another Windows system regarding filesystem structure (i.e. where’s Program Files, where’s the system registry, where’s the system32 folder, and so on), so it’s easier to make a Windows client.
And then, there’s a second reason why GOG may have no Linux client: Linux users often won’t need training wheels. I bought Terraria from GOG, a game that I already had “purchased” from Steam a few years ago. I got surprised how easy is to install the game. They deliver a shellscript, you run it, you click next, next, tick accept, next, optionally choose another folder, next, wait, finish, and that’s it. The thing just… works. Why bother to install a whole client when the current way already works seamlessly? You won’t even need internet connection during the installation, whereas a client would require it, so in a sense, IMHO, a client would actually worsen the experience of installation.
Steam doesn’t even let you own games you paid for, so it treats you as a pleb in feudal times - it’s just that at this precise moment in time this isn’t a bad quality of life. But your existence is nothing but the whim of Steam - which includes the option to shut down everything & end your existence.
@Limonene@Sunshine
🤕
Dependence makes you a first-class citizen, and freedom a second-class citizen???
THAT’s a strange way of looking at first-classness!
🧐
I don’t use GOG. I’m not going to let them treat me as a second class citizen, when Steam treats me as first class.
One of these two entities actually lets me own my games. To where I can install them from local files even without an internet connection. One of these entities leases me games that I can install with an internet connection as long as they see fit. They are not the same.
Learning that steam may delist a game if its offered by another store for cheaper has definitely soured my opinion of them. GOG should make a native installer though.
That only applies if you’re selling Steam keys in the other store. If you sell access via other means (like direct download), you can price them however you want. Hence, thousands of itch.io games that are cheaper than their Steam versions.
No, not true. They specifically mention its not just steam keys in their released emails.
If you have a link to the actual emails, rather than a YouTube video for it, I’d be very interested in that.
If you have anything but conjecture I’d be interested in that as well.
Well, you made the claim, so 🤷
Short of evidence for your claim, I’ll roll with the fact that, to my knowledge, there has never been a case of an itch.io game being bullied out of being cheaper than its Steam version.
I made the claim and provided evidence. You have yet to refute it in any meaningful way and have only provided conjecture. If you have proof the email isn’t real feel free to share it. You’re also free to look up the emails yourself if you feel they would prove me wrong.
Without evidence “your knowledge” means nothing.
@RonnieB @seathru When was this?
https://youtu.be/csyF67DwI4w @ 8:45
Emails revealed during a case
deleted by creator
You want to elaborate on that?
I’m not OP but I use GOG significantly less ever since I switched to Linux and got a Steam Deck.
I currently use Heroic but until GOG commits some more resources into their Linux ecosystem I’m just going to use them sparingly.
GOG released a Windows client, but no Linux client. My problem is with being treated worse than a Windows user.
In comparison, itch.io has no Windows client and no Linux client (in part because some of the stuff they sell is not software). So I have no problem buying through itch.io.
itch.io does have a client, it even has a Linux version and it’s on Flathub:
https://itch.io/app
https://flathub.org/apps/io.itch.itch
I can sort of understand why GOG has no Linux client. Have you noticed how there are differences among the distros? I use Arch (by the way), another Linux user uses Debian, the other uses Slackware, the other uses Enlightenment OS, the other uses RHEL, and so on. There are lots of flavors, structures, package managers, display managers… Some distros still use X11 instead of the newer Wayland… How to deal with so many differences? Whereas a Windows system is generally not so different from another Windows system regarding filesystem structure (i.e. where’s Program Files, where’s the system registry, where’s the system32 folder, and so on), so it’s easier to make a Windows client.
And then, there’s a second reason why GOG may have no Linux client: Linux users often won’t need training wheels. I bought Terraria from GOG, a game that I already had “purchased” from Steam a few years ago. I got surprised how easy is to install the game. They deliver a shellscript, you run it, you click next, next, tick accept, next, optionally choose another folder, next, wait, finish, and that’s it. The thing just… works. Why bother to install a whole client when the current way already works seamlessly? You won’t even need internet connection during the installation, whereas a client would require it, so in a sense, IMHO, a client would actually worsen the experience of installation.
Steam doesn’t even let you own games you paid for, so it treats you as a pleb in feudal times - it’s just that at this precise moment in time this isn’t a bad quality of life. But your existence is nothing but the whim of Steam - which includes the option to shut down everything & end your existence.
@Limonene @Sunshine
🤕
Dependence makes you a first-class citizen, and freedom a second-class citizen???
THAT’s a strange way of looking at first-classness!
🧐