NVIDIA App update packs DLSS 4 and support for 75 games and apps, alongside a new feature: Smooth Motion driver-level frame gen, similar to AFMF from AMD.
uses FSR on edge devices and can customise it to their liking
Everybody can customize it, but nobody does, that’s my point.
Conversely, DLSS and similar tech has only accomplished making games run like shit and deprive us of non blurry images
What? How is it doing that? Also, why is DLSS the reason for blurry images, but FSR is better?
Nvidia is rent seeking and I don’t want to pay them rent
What are you even talking about?
I’m not interested into being dragged into a fanboyism war
It looks like you’ve already joined the fanboy war on the side of AMD.
another I dislike because instead of pushing the industry forward is promoting shit game optimisation and hobbling game engines through MDF bribery making gaming less accessible to everyone.
Nvidia has been further weaponising the patent system with great success by offering grants to grad unis under the condition the IP is the sole property of NVIDIA. They have completely hobbled the competitive environment around parallel processing making it almost impossible for non juggernauts to enter the fray.
It looks like you’ve already joined the fanboy war on the side of AMD
I’m fanboying for FOSS, open software and open standards that foster competition and new ideas.
Almost, every single game made with NV support has been plagued by performance issues. That’s before we mention their recent app which is problematic.
They hold a monopoly and are antithetical to FOSS despite the latest push motivated by propelling AI deployment on consumer desktop linux to increase sales.
Perhaps you should re-examine why you’re so antithetical to criticism of NVIDIA, maybe you merged your definition of self with the brand and that’s you react so emotionally when someone points out how detrimental of an organisation NVIDIA is.
So you don’t get what I meant, ok. You can mod DLSS into games that don’t support it, that doesn’t mean it’s customizable. I was talking about the actual FSR upscaling implementation. Basically, no one cares that FSR is open source because no devs are putting any work into it to make it better. So in practice, this isn’t a positive.
just one of the many games where the implementation was shit. FSR is better because it’s free and open
Like I said, FSR being open source doesn’t mean anything, because nobody is working on it, AMD included. FSR in Dead Space was a blurry mess, so by your logic it’s garbage.
I’m fanboying for FOSS, open software and open standards that foster competition and new ideas.
In theory yes, but not how AMD is doing it. When they try to catch up with NVIDIA tech, they do the bare minimum and hope someone else finishes the work, which doesn’t work.
That’s before we mention their recent app which is problematic.
Does that mean AMD is terrible, because they had problems with their drivers? Or when Adrenalin causes problems?
Almost, every single game made with NV support has been plagued by performance issues.
Got any examples, that are NVIDIAs fault? I remember the Tessellation stuff in Crysis. Anything more recent, that isn’t just game runs bad, so it must be NVIDIAs fault?
Perhaps you should re-examine why you’re so antithetical to criticism of NVIDIA, maybe you merged your definition of self with the brand and that’s you react so emotionally when someone points out how detrimental of an organisation NVIDIA is.
I’m not against criticism of NVIDIA. I’m against baseless accusations, that are often just conspiracy theories, without any evidence. It mostly just comes down to NVIDIA bad.
That’s why I’m saying you are an AMD fanboy. A lot of the examples you mentioned can also apply to AMD, but you just ignore them, and it doesn’t matter to you. AMD supports FOSS, so they can’t do wrong and are the good guys.
So you don’t get what I meant, ok. You can mod DLSS into games that don’t support it, that doesn’t mean it’s customizable. I was talking about the actual FSR upscaling implementation. Basically, no one cares that FSR is open source because no devs are putting any work into it to make it better. So in practice, this isn’t a positive.
Here go to forks then commits and you’ll see a wide community including non AMD staff.
Like I said, FSR being open source doesn’t mean anything, because nobody is working on it, AMD included. FSR in Dead Space was a blurry mess, so by your logic it’s garbage.
Yes, t’was trash in Dead Space, however, it’s free so it cost me nothing to have trash rather than a kidney.
In theory yes, but not how AMD is doing it. When they try to catch up with NVIDIA tech, they do the bare minimum and hope someone else finishes the work, which doesn’t work.
TressFX and several other tech has been open and industry leadig. Apple’s Metal, DX12 and Vulkan itself benefited from AMD’s push for mantle by the BF4 release. People have a convenient habit to forget the FOSS initiatives that end up resulting in pearls like proton, DxVK, et al.
Does that mean AMD is terrible, because they had problems with their drivers? Or when Adrenalin causes problems?
Dunno, using FOSS drivers. How’s Noveau doing with the 5xxx series? Regarding adrenalin poblems, fuck ye it makes AMD terrible, people paid a butload of cash for hardware that doesn’t do what was advertised. Same for NVIDIA or Intel.
Got any examples, that are NVIDIAs fault? I remember the Tessellation stuff in Crysis. Anything more recent, that isn’t just game runs bad, so it must be NVIDIAs fault?
I’m also happy you chose to ignore the EU anticompetitive suit that is ongoing and I referenced (that one goes beyond AI and includes bundling of technologies).
Naturally that would defeat your entire attempt at arguing I’m an AMD fanboy thus jeopardising your “ironclad” protection of the self identification with NVIDIA.
Naturally that would defeat your entire attempt at arguing I’m an AMD fanboy thus jeopardising your “ironclad” protection of the self identification with NVIDIA.
No, you simply are an AMD fanboy. As you’ve shown in basically all of you comments here.
Yes, t’was trash in Dead Space, however, it’s free so it cost me nothing to have trash rather than a kidney.
Again, ignoring the examples that contradict your argument. NVIDIA has bad DLSS implementation, they’re bad, AMD doesn’t matter, they can’t do wrong.
Here go to forks then commits and you’ll see a wide community including non AMD staff.
Ok, but if you look at these examples, lots of times, AMD is just dumping the code, sometimes do a few commits, and then nothing. Like I said multiple times, it seems like AMD is doing the minimum amount of work and hope others finish.
Then the tons of forks, what do they matter, if nothing comes of it. I asked you which dev worked on FSR1 or 2, to improve it and released something.
TressFX and several other tech has been open and industry leadig. Apple’s Metal, DX12 and Vulkan itself benefited from AMD’s push for mantle by the BF4 release. People have a convenient habit to forget the FOSS initiatives that end up resulting in pearls like proton, DxVK, et al.
Finally, one single example, where AMD possibly didn’t just do the minimum amount of work and hope others do the rest (although who knows how much of it was DICE, but let’s give AMD the benefit of the doubt. I also don’t really care about your other examples like proton or DxVK. I never said FOSS are bad or something. This is just about AMD and how they (seemingly) handle their open source stuff.
As for your EVGA or Apple examples, you are constantly expanding the scope of the argument. First, it’s about how DLSS ruins game visual. Then it’s NVIDIA basically sabotaging games and crippling their performance. Now you’re bringing past business partners into the mix, because you can’t answer the initial question.
Please show me, where I said NVIDIA has never done anything wrong and Jensen is a saint. Yes, NVIDIA can be a shitty and greedy company. They might be a pain to work with. They do shitty stuff, basically because they’re the top dog right now. However, you are basically blaming everything that’s wrong in the world on them, and when asked for anything to back it up, you talk nonsense.
Next, your Assassin’s Creed example. Ubisoft and NVIDIA are pointing fingers at each other, but you think it must be all NVIDIAs fault? And even if they are solely responsible, that’s two examples of NVIDIA casing problems with games in what, 30 years? Doesn’t seem too bad to me, unless you got anything else.
I’m also happy you chose to ignore the EU anticompetitive suit that is ongoing and I referenced (that one goes beyond AI and includes bundling of technologies).
Hey, just like you’re ignoring something I said, I do the same thing. Call me when that suit is done.
Imma be honest, I don’t know why you brought NVIDIA into this. I just criticized AMD and FSR, but you couldn’t just show me examples of how I’m wrong, you mostly had to tell me that NVIDIA are the devil.
Imma be honest, I don’t know why you brought NVIDIA into this. I just criticized AMD and FSR, but you couldn’t just show me examples of how I’m wrong, you mostly had to tell me that NVIDIA are the devil.
So they copied AFMF. If it’s anything like their driver level upscaler(NIS) is going to be shit because they released it to tick a box rather than invest actual development time to make it functional, unlike the competition who has a, together with the FOSS community, turned into a mainstay of not rich people toolset everywhere.
NVIDIA Fuck you
My original comment, about NVIDIA, that you forgot after moving the goal posts n times because at every turn I gave you references, which you outright ignored or moved the goalposts a bit more to dismiss. So, here we are, turns out you’re projecting when calling others “fanboy”. Enjoy paying 1000$ for a xx70 class card, you deserve it.
I engaged with one specific part here of your post, I even quoted it. No mention of NIS or the new Smooth Motion tech and how good they are. This was all just how I think AMD didn’t really invest actual development, maybe brought something functional, but not competitive, and hasn’t really been working together with the FOSS community.
Please show me where I shifted the goal posts. You did it time and time again, when I asked for examples for your accusations, but you couldn’t provide any.
Everybody can customize it, but nobody does, that’s my point.
What? How is it doing that? Also, why is DLSS the reason for blurry images, but FSR is better?
What are you even talking about?
It looks like you’ve already joined the fanboy war on the side of AMD.
Case in point. And more conspiracies.
Literally this week
just one of the many games where the implementation was shit. FSR is better because it’s free and open
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Nvidia has been further weaponising the patent system with great success by offering grants to grad unis under the condition the IP is the sole property of NVIDIA. They have completely hobbled the competitive environment around parallel processing making it almost impossible for non juggernauts to enter the fray.
I’m fanboying for FOSS, open software and open standards that foster competition and new ideas.
Almost, every single game made with NV support has been plagued by performance issues. That’s before we mention their recent app which is problematic.
They hold a monopoly and are antithetical to FOSS despite the latest push motivated by propelling AI deployment on consumer desktop linux to increase sales.
Perhaps you should re-examine why you’re so antithetical to criticism of NVIDIA, maybe you merged your definition of self with the brand and that’s you react so emotionally when someone points out how detrimental of an organisation NVIDIA is.
So you don’t get what I meant, ok. You can mod DLSS into games that don’t support it, that doesn’t mean it’s customizable. I was talking about the actual FSR upscaling implementation. Basically, no one cares that FSR is open source because no devs are putting any work into it to make it better. So in practice, this isn’t a positive.
Like I said, FSR being open source doesn’t mean anything, because nobody is working on it, AMD included. FSR in Dead Space was a blurry mess, so by your logic it’s garbage.
In theory yes, but not how AMD is doing it. When they try to catch up with NVIDIA tech, they do the bare minimum and hope someone else finishes the work, which doesn’t work.
Does that mean AMD is terrible, because they had problems with their drivers? Or when Adrenalin causes problems?
Got any examples, that are NVIDIAs fault? I remember the Tessellation stuff in Crysis. Anything more recent, that isn’t just game runs bad, so it must be NVIDIAs fault?
I’m not against criticism of NVIDIA. I’m against baseless accusations, that are often just conspiracy theories, without any evidence. It mostly just comes down to NVIDIA bad.
That’s why I’m saying you are an AMD fanboy. A lot of the examples you mentioned can also apply to AMD, but you just ignore them, and it doesn’t matter to you. AMD supports FOSS, so they can’t do wrong and are the good guys.
Here go to forks then commits and you’ll see a wide community including non AMD staff.
Yes, t’was trash in Dead Space, however, it’s free so it cost me nothing to have trash rather than a kidney.
TressFX and several other tech has been open and industry leadig. Apple’s Metal, DX12 and Vulkan itself benefited from AMD’s push for mantle by the BF4 release. People have a convenient habit to forget the FOSS initiatives that end up resulting in pearls like proton, DxVK, et al.
Dunno, using FOSS drivers. How’s Noveau doing with the 5xxx series? Regarding adrenalin poblems, fuck ye it makes AMD terrible, people paid a butload of cash for hardware that doesn’t do what was advertised. Same for NVIDIA or Intel.
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I’m also happy you chose to ignore the EU anticompetitive suit that is ongoing and I referenced (that one goes beyond AI and includes bundling of technologies).
Naturally that would defeat your entire attempt at arguing I’m an AMD fanboy thus jeopardising your “ironclad” protection of the self identification with NVIDIA.
Edit: here we go, best tech company in the world
Also amazing to see the voting trends when US Americans wake up…
No, you simply are an AMD fanboy. As you’ve shown in basically all of you comments here.
Again, ignoring the examples that contradict your argument. NVIDIA has bad DLSS implementation, they’re bad, AMD doesn’t matter, they can’t do wrong.
Ok, but if you look at these examples, lots of times, AMD is just dumping the code, sometimes do a few commits, and then nothing. Like I said multiple times, it seems like AMD is doing the minimum amount of work and hope others finish.
Then the tons of forks, what do they matter, if nothing comes of it. I asked you which dev worked on FSR1 or 2, to improve it and released something.
Finally, one single example, where AMD possibly didn’t just do the minimum amount of work and hope others do the rest (although who knows how much of it was DICE, but let’s give AMD the benefit of the doubt. I also don’t really care about your other examples like proton or DxVK. I never said FOSS are bad or something. This is just about AMD and how they (seemingly) handle their open source stuff.
As for your EVGA or Apple examples, you are constantly expanding the scope of the argument. First, it’s about how DLSS ruins game visual. Then it’s NVIDIA basically sabotaging games and crippling their performance. Now you’re bringing past business partners into the mix, because you can’t answer the initial question.
Please show me, where I said NVIDIA has never done anything wrong and Jensen is a saint. Yes, NVIDIA can be a shitty and greedy company. They might be a pain to work with. They do shitty stuff, basically because they’re the top dog right now. However, you are basically blaming everything that’s wrong in the world on them, and when asked for anything to back it up, you talk nonsense.
Next, your Assassin’s Creed example. Ubisoft and NVIDIA are pointing fingers at each other, but you think it must be all NVIDIAs fault? And even if they are solely responsible, that’s two examples of NVIDIA casing problems with games in what, 30 years? Doesn’t seem too bad to me, unless you got anything else.
Hey, just like you’re ignoring something I said, I do the same thing. Call me when that suit is done.
Imma be honest, I don’t know why you brought NVIDIA into this. I just criticized AMD and FSR, but you couldn’t just show me examples of how I’m wrong, you mostly had to tell me that NVIDIA are the devil.
My original comment, about NVIDIA, that you forgot after moving the goal posts n times because at every turn I gave you references, which you outright ignored or moved the goalposts a bit more to dismiss. So, here we are, turns out you’re projecting when calling others “fanboy”. Enjoy paying 1000$ for a xx70 class card, you deserve it.
I thought you might get confused here.
I engaged with one specific part here of your post, I even quoted it. No mention of NIS or the new Smooth Motion tech and how good they are. This was all just how I think AMD didn’t really invest actual development, maybe brought something functional, but not competitive, and hasn’t really been working together with the FOSS community.
Please show me where I shifted the goal posts. You did it time and time again, when I asked for examples for your accusations, but you couldn’t provide any.
Projecting again.
I see this is going nowhere. I hope you have a great day.