Paying extra for service has inspired rebellions, swivelling iPads, and irritation from Trotsky and Larry David. Post-pandemic, the practice has entered a new stage.
I’ve gone back to only tipping when eating in, or independent family businesses. Maximum 20%
I really like (mostly East) Asian culture where tips are considered condescending, and employees will be visibly upset if you try to give more than the bill states. And of course all taxes are already included in the list price on the menu. Dining in Asia is so much more pleasant than in the US, and unfortunately this cancerous habit has also infested most parts of Europe.
ugh south america has it now.
fuck this tipping bullshit.
I feel like there’s a small group of people in the US that over emphasize the negative aspects of tips and never consider that the overarching culture in the US makes people making money as a tipped employee one of the few retail employees that get paid enough to thrive.
That’s exactly the point, employees shouldn’t be thriving off of an almost mandatory donation, but should be fairly compensated in the first place.
They should be, but if tipping were abolished in the US they’d just become underpaid like every other blue collar worker.
Until they’d all find something else and employers would have to up the salaries or do the shit jobs themselves. You can’t treat the root cause without addressing the symptoms first.
You can’t treat the root cause without addressing the symptoms first.
What? No. This is absolutely false.
employees shouldn’t be thriving off of an almost mandatory donation, but should be fairly compensated in the first place
This seems callous and cruel. What are you even saying?
I’m saying fair wages and no tips would benefit everybody.
The problem is that you’re proposing getting rid of one of the few ways to make a living wage as an incentive to possibly change to a better system. Gotta find a way that doesn’t require taking good pay away from people or you’re just being cruel because of a fixation on not wanting to pay tips.
My point is rather that the tipping system has become so exploitative and expected, that some people rather don’t eat out at all than don’t tip to avoid stigma.
So this is less about canceling tipping rather than reining it back in. Getting rid of it would be preferable imho because it ensures everybody gets at least minimum wage and can set their priorities straight with regards to setting expectations, but ‘back to the roots’ where 10% was considered exceptional.
everybody already gets at least minimum wage unless the employer is breaking the law.
Your suggestions seem hellbent on making life worse for millions because of an aversion to cusom.
The most recognizable, these days, is the iPad pirouette, evoking an upturned palm. Gerard Knight led the design team at Square, one of the major tablet-payment providers, when it first rolled out its tipping feature. “Turning around the interface to say ‘Give me money’ can be kind of an obnoxious gesture,” he told me. Originally, the designers used a Trojan horse, of sorts. “The idea was you turned it around anyway, to capture a signature”—most credit cards at the time required one—“and in that process you prompt that customer for a tip.”
