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    They can’t do that. The simple rule of LAW IN THIS COUNTRY should be enough to stop them. All we have to do is remove them from power. Where is the Democrats gathering part of our military and law enforcement to oust these people from our government? This is all it takes. Our country has very clear, simple laws that prohibit exactly what is going on right the fuck now from happening, and it’s still happening. Why? Because they’re afraid they’ll be seen as the same as the people from 6 January? That it will give these asshats some sort of ammunition against actual justice? Fuck them. Fuck them, throw them out, lock them up, and re-educate the people that this shit isn’t going to be tolerated. We can remove them forcefully because they did something wrong, they couldn’t remove anyone because we didn’t.

    It’s that goddamn simple. How is it not that goddamn simple? Fucking do something. Fucking throw these fuckers out. Now. Not next election cycle, not whenever a bunch of people want to finally get off their ass and violently rebel, fucking right now.

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        As Lenin said in State and Revolution, “The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class shall represent and repress them in parliament!“

        This is no different and only shows the media’s effective advertising that people think otherwise.

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        Which is why I want to drive the ones who still have a duty to this country’s ideals to act. There ARE those who are like that, you know. And have the rule of law of this country on their side. So let’s go.

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      Lenin said, “Only simpletons put faith in words.” (https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/jun/09.htm) This is the root of the discussion when it comes to “lawfulness”.

      Your ideas of the violently rebelling “right now” doesn’t quite make sense. In the US, the white “proletariat” is still benefiting for the capital extraction occurring in the global south as Sakai has explained. This, as long as it is happening, will impair the development of class consciousness. A rebellion without class consciousness will not be substantive rebellion. It would either be pointless or adventurist.

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        Only morons listen to extremists about other extremists. - Me, now.

        Tired of people putting faith in alt-left historical shitlords like Lenin.

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          Lenin was one of the most important figures in creating the first Socialist State, I think we should at minimum learn from his experiences and thoughts to see what we should copy and what we need to change.

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          I’ll maybe take your thoughts on Lenin seriously when you accomplish anything even comparable to what he did. Until then, you can sit around and feel superior over individuals who brought about earth-shattering change created through the correct analysis of the conditions that he saw.

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      Most of the country wants this. For every person who tries to overthrow the government, there are more people who will fight to keep it as it is.

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        77/335 > 0.5

        Most of the country are just uninformed enough to not vote or to vote for Trump because they believe his lies.

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          It’s not because they believe his lies. It’s because they their own conditions are enriched by upholding a system that extracts profits from the third world through neocolonialism. You should read Settlers by J. Sakai and see how it is.