• Reddit has begun issuing warnings to users to regularly upvote violent content with a view to taking harsher action in future.
  • The company says that it will consider expanding this action to other forms of content in future.
  • Users are concerned that this moderation tactic could be abused or just improperly implemented.
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    Can’t have anyone taking about the abuses going on, it makes Glorious Leader look bad.

    As always, fuck reddit.

  • Singletona082@lemmy.world
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    Define ‘violent.’

    Does activism count as ‘political violence’ does posting things that upset people count as ‘emotional violence’?

    What about being part of a minority? ‘ethnic violence!’ How about someone that’s trans, Gay, or otherwise part of the rainbow? ‘Sexual violence!’

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      I said something like “billionaires should remember that the alternative is guillotines”, just a bit of history, and an admin deleted my comment and gave me a warning.

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        I ate a three day ban for talking about the morality of killing Hitler if you had the chance. In an animorphs sub, because that happened in one of the books.

        ‘It’s Hitler. He Dies.’

        • Tobias.
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          I got banned from r/politics in 2019 by replying to

          We should treat Trump exactly how he treats immigrants.

          with

          What do you mean, shoot him?

          Appeal wasn’t ignored. Instead, it was mocked.

          So yeah I’m going to get banned. But not before I poison their AI data pool as much as I can.

  • Monstrosity@lemm.ee
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    The amount of censorship taking place on that platform every day lately is kind of staggering.

  • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works
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    In theory that doesn’t sound so bad, but in practice, what are they actually labeling as violent and does some violence get a pass?

    There have definitely been inconsistencies in the past where certain types of violent rhetoric gets a pass but other content that even comes close gets axed no question.

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      I can see simply voicing dissent can result in a ban on Reddit. Has happened easily to me and likely others. Fuck Reddit.

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    I was permanently banned from reddit recently. Reason? There was a moron in a game sub who kept saying that I am dumb and my stats must be shit. I shared my stat and commented, “It must be tough to think and breathe at the same time with just one brain cell.” Boom. Banned for violating some policy. The moron who was being toxic is still active and pissing other people off. What’s more funny is that they even rejected my appeal.

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      I was banned for saying fascists need to be hung, appeal rejected. While you got that r/conservative sub and others like it being well, fascist and calling for Liberals demise.

      Seems to me Reddit is a OK with hate speech as long as you hate the right kind.

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      Filing appeals is a joke on Reddit. They just simply ignore all of them. I’ve been shadowbanned from Reddit now for almost a month and I’ve submitted maybe three appeals. They just get off on their righteous rhetoric who feel they can never do wrong. They probably get off on people begging to have their accounts restored. Spam-filtering my ass, it’s working as intended as in, it makes their jobs easier to ignore you.

    • Bzdalderon@lemmy.ca
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      Every Reddit mod is thriving in victim culture. The instant someone makes a complaint, they become a victim, and the smooth brained mods are incapable of removing their anchoring bias from their brains when making a decision.

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    Guys! This is how we could attract more users for the Fediverse! We could…UPVOTE VIOLENT CONTENT!!!

    …ya know what? It sounded more epic, and made more sense in my head. Saying it out loud it just sounds like something a nutjob would yell out randomly in an Arbys in Iowa one quiet Tuesday.

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      I don’t think so. Mods have a sensitivity crisis, they don’t like it when people praise Luigi and feel CEOs should get theirs. Or that is considered “ADVOCATING VIOLENCE!!111” because I guess it’s okay for CEOs to play god and fuck with everyone’s lives on a regular basis but we can’t cheer for them to get shot.

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    Users are concerned that this moderation tactic could be abused or just improperly implemented.

    This is the key bit. It’s good to try and make safer online spaces. But Reddit’s automated moderation has been bad for a while, and this might get more users caught up in false positives

    I’ve seen comments tagged as abusive regardless of the context:

    • someone quoting a news article
    • someone making a hyperbolic joke (especially in gen-Z subs)
    • actual abuse

    For well moderated subs, the vast majority of those reports became false positives over time. For the mod queue, this didn’t affect the end user since mods can dismiss the false positives. But automated ‘scores’ won’t account for that.

    We’re going to see even more annoying algospeak like “unalive”, only it’s going to be in news quotes as well

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      You’ll eat your new reddit and train any AI models that we decide to feed your data to and you’ll enjoy it. Reddits clients are probably passed that all their models end up turning into incels.

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    Reddit’s moderation policies are already too crazy and moderators are already abusing whatever they want. I don’t expect anything to become significantly worse.

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    There are still human users over on reddit? This must change. More punishment on reddit please!

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      Delusional. There’s like 100 users on Lemmy. Reddit has grown its userbase this year.

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        I think it’s a joke about dead internet theory, rather than userbase size

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory

        The joke comes from an increase in bot use on Reddit, and the subsequent false positive / false negatives in trying to figure out which ones are bots

        Lemmy has that problem too, but it’s much smaller in scope. Mostly because there’s less of a reason to try and control the narrative on this smaller platform, but also because the goals are different. Lemmy instances get no benefit from a bunch of fake engagement, and public upvotes makes it easier to catch manipulation

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        Most users on Lemmy are Delusional. especially here in /c/Technology – turns out, this community isn’t for technology at all, but rather for bitching about silicon valley companies.

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          !tech@programming.dev is decent if you’re looking for the more technological side, since the rules filter out

          • Minor app updates
          • Government legislation
          • Company news
          • Opinion pieces
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          Technobitching in the valley. You just prefer boring conference-tier activities with slideshows, mumbling and occasional pafos hand clapping.

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    I can’t find it anymore but they had the same experiment around 2015 I guess. If you upvoted too many trolls or far-right people, you could be punished for this. The idea is not new.