• bearboiblake@pawb.social
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    4 hours ago

    i’m not going to get into a debate about it, because i have better things to do, sorry.

    i would agree that the USSR was socialist, but very quickly stopped being so, and now it is capitalist. that’s not what i call a success.

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      3 hours ago

      Fair enough, but I would say that examining what went right and what went wrong is an imporant duty for any socialist examining ybe USSR not just dismissing it outright. Many of the issues and problems with Soviet Union can be applied to any country building socialism as can many of the benefits. So we must learn what to keep and what to leave aside.

      And for what it’s worth, I reccommend that first link I sent. I think what I described in that could be useful for you.

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        3 hours ago

        i still think you’re assuming what my actual, real-life views are from a silly what-if scenario! i am never gonna be in control of anything more powerful than a barbeque.

        but if somehow i got to mind control the president or something, yes, i’d take advantage of that brief control to eliminate as many capitalists as possible

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          36 minutes ago

          You can’t just kill Socialism into existence, though. That’s Idealism, not Materialism. That removes the entire process of Historical Materialism, and erases the foundations of Scientific Socialism, as opposed to Utopianism. I recommend reading or revisiting Socialism: Utopian and Scientific.