Here’s the relevant graph from the link you just posted:
Are you claiming that the difference between how the US life expectancy is rising compared to every other country’s life expectancy is rising, which has existed absolutely unmodified since Reagan both before and after the ACA, is the ACA’s fault?
Or are you saying that the decline in life expectancy which happened during Covid is the ACA’s fault?
Or something else? What do you mean “declining life expectancy” here?
US life expectancy barely increased since 2000 through 2019 while many countries leap frogged us.
During covid US saw larger drop in life expectancy vis a vis other countries. And recovery is worse them these countries too.
Us health care system is providing shitier outcomes today then it was 10 years ago. The system ACA set up is the key contributing factor in decline of quality.
You said that with the ACA, the quality of health care went down. That is absolute counterfactual nonsense, as someone pointed out to you. So, you claimed as your argument that life expectancy had declined, and linked to a study which showed life expectancy increasing (just not by as much as you wanted it to). Now you’re changing the subject to some variety of other things including Covid and the recovery and simply blandly going back to square 1 and re-asserting that the ACA is responsible for low life expectancy and for American health care being bad, instead of literally everything else about America and American health care.
Do I have that all correct? Anything you want to add or disagree with in that summary?
Can you clarify for me exactly how life expectancy has been declining since the ACA? You “clarified” by abandoning the claim that that’s been happening. So we’re agreed that that hasn’t been happening, you’re just unhappy that it hasn’t been increasing by more, and convinced (for some reason) that the ACA is responsible, yes?
By which measure did health care quality improve since ACA?
Are you familiar with Russel’s Teapot?
I’ve been clarifying my own position plenty of other places in these comments, and multiple other commenters have listed multiple specific ways in which health care improved when the ACA was passed.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK600454/
Declining life expectancy is indirect but a very telling indicator.
What?
Here’s the relevant graph from the link you just posted:
Are you claiming that the difference between how the US life expectancy is rising compared to every other country’s life expectancy is rising, which has existed absolutely unmodified since Reagan both before and after the ACA, is the ACA’s fault?
Or are you saying that the decline in life expectancy which happened during Covid is the ACA’s fault?
Or something else? What do you mean “declining life expectancy” here?
US life expectancy barely increased since 2000 through 2019 while many countries leap frogged us.
During covid US saw larger drop in life expectancy vis a vis other countries. And recovery is worse them these countries too.
Us health care system is providing shitier outcomes today then it was 10 years ago. The system ACA set up is the key contributing factor in decline of quality.
You said that with the ACA, the quality of health care went down. That is absolute counterfactual nonsense, as someone pointed out to you. So, you claimed as your argument that life expectancy had declined, and linked to a study which showed life expectancy increasing (just not by as much as you wanted it to). Now you’re changing the subject to some variety of other things including Covid and the recovery and simply blandly going back to square 1 and re-asserting that the ACA is responsible for low life expectancy and for American health care being bad, instead of literally everything else about America and American health care.
Do I have that all correct? Anything you want to add or disagree with in that summary?
I clarified my position that’s how a discussion works.
By which measure did health care quality improve since ACA?
Can you clarify for me exactly how life expectancy has been declining since the ACA? You “clarified” by abandoning the claim that that’s been happening. So we’re agreed that that hasn’t been happening, you’re just unhappy that it hasn’t been increasing by more, and convinced (for some reason) that the ACA is responsible, yes?
Are you familiar with Russel’s Teapot?
I’ve been clarifying my own position plenty of other places in these comments, and multiple other commenters have listed multiple specific ways in which health care improved when the ACA was passed.
That number includes affordability. If you include that metric, then yes health care is doing worse.
But that’s not declining quality.
lol