“Half the people in the world think that the metaphors of their religious traditions, for example, are facts. And the other half contends that they are not facts at all. As a result we have people who consider themselves believers because they accept metaphors as facts, and we have others who classify themselves as atheists because they think religious metaphors are lies.” ― Joseph Campbell, Thou Art That: Transforming Religious Metaphor
Half plus Half = 100.0%, the entire world is incorrect
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Atheists are reactionary, all they care about is repulsing The Bible, Quran, Upanishads, Torah. That’s like repulsing fiction Hamlet because it contains ghost characters, or repulsing Star Wars because it contains “the force” magic themes, or repulsing Lord of the Rings because there are “magic rings”. Science Fiction stories like The Bible can be understood, don’t be afraid of fiction.
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Believers confuse fiction with non-fiction. Bible verse “John 1;1” from 2,000 years ago spells out this problem along with Bible verse “1 John 4:20”. You can not love God or love Jesus, because love of a fiction character or dead person you never met isn’t really love. Again, Bible verse “1 John 4:20” spelled this human brain confusion / educational misunderstanding thousands of years ago.
You’re repeating yourself. Good to hear you’ve got basic education, at least.
As for turing tests, I’m not so sure if those are suitable for today’s systems.
Yes.
You clearly can’t tell human beings from bots and are easily confused and bewildered. You seem incredibly gullible and ignorant, regardless of your education, you seem meme-addled… maybe you lack experience? Reply after reply you neg me and the message being shared, entirely unable to discuss the topic of metaphors and the crisis in society.
Since you can’t even capitalize “Turing” in test, which is named after a person named Alan Turing, and you can’t tell if a Lemmy user is a bot… your education is either only in negging in favor of Elon Musk’s X / Memphis Colossus datacenter systems or who knows what. Your pattern of replies are sure here to cultivate celebration of ignorance and anti-intellectualism against the list of authors / teachers / educators being presented on this posting.
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” ― Isaac Asimov, 1980 https://aphelis.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ASIMOV_1980_Cult_of_Ignorance.pdf
And I’ll keep repeating while the machines people worship and upvote on destroy the world along with me in it. Because people value technology systems of anti-thinking… but there is still a tiny chance people might actually see that the pattern played out in world religions where people favored fiction over non-fiction, but so far humanity isn’t willing to learn and understand metaphors.
“Metaphor lives a secret life all around us. We utter about six metaphors a minute. Metaphorical thinking is essential to how we understand ourselves and others, how we communicate, learn, discover and invent. But metaphor is a way of thought before it is a way with words.” — James Geary, I Is an Other: The Secret Life of Metaphor and How It Shapes the Way We See the World
I know of alan turing, I just don’t bother. And I’m not a fan of nazi’s, thank you. I don’t do methaphors, don’t worry. But I did learn that you do more than just generalize groups of people.
You can’t tell the difference between a human person and Eliza chatbot. So “I just don’t bother” is your intention except to bother me for trying to actually end conflicts in the world with education and teaching.
But you sure do seem a fan of the Taliban’s interpretation of poetry book the Quran and want to interfere with teachers addressing Islamic terrorism. And / Or perhaps you are a supporter of Donald Trump’s $59.99 Bible and the problem of Americans who can’t grasp metaphors in year 2025? And / Or maybe you don’t like women understanding the role that Torah, Bible, Quran plays in manipulating their lives and want to banalize and / or trivialize the teaching of metaphors on Lemmy? But I guess since none of that isn’t Nazi Germany from the 1930’s and 1940’s, you can’t grasp the problems beyond your one-line banality messaging to me to draw the audience away from the topics.
“If Christians, Hindus or Jews are really our enemies, as so many say, why are we Muslims fighting with each other?” ― Malala Yousafzai, I am Malala: The Story of the Girl Who Stood Up for Education and was Shot by the Taliban. October 8, 2013
“The other nine, decent, hard-working, ordinarily intelligent and honest men, did not know before 1933 that Nazism was evil. They did not know between 1933 and 1945 that it was evil. And they do not know it now. None of them ever knew, or now knows, Nazism as we knew and know it; and they lived under it, served it, and, indeed, made it.” ― Milton Sanford Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45, published 1955
“So it’s an extreme case that we have in the Bible, and our own Western subjugation of the female is a function of biblical thinking.” - 1987, Skywalker Ranch California
“Anyway, that’s rationalisation, and then the third – and this is sort of one of my own if you will forgive me – is what I’ll call banalization. And it’s always a danger when you do lectures like the ones I am doing now, and that’s to take these fundamentally important things like what does my life mean, and surely there must be a better way to organise the world than the way it is organised now, surely my life could have more meaning in a different situation. Maybe my life’s meaning might be to change it or whatever, but to take any one of these criticisms and treat them as banalities. This is the great – to me – ideological function of television and the movies. However extreme the situation, TV can find a way to turn it into a banality.” - Rick Roderick in 1993
… This is the great – to me – ideological function of smartphones and social machines and twitter-length reaction pot-shots and memes. However extreme the situation, social media users can find a way to turn it into a banality.
“Because all the troubles that such a life involve are just reduced to banality, just the common rubble of little one line joke, you follow me? It’s made banal by it. It’s banalised that way.” - Duke University Professor, Rick Roderick, 1993