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???@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

Senior Israeli source: Gaza will not be Hamastan; ‘roof knocking’ policy no longer norm

www.timesofisrael.com

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Senior Israeli source: Gaza will not be Hamastan; ‘roof knocking’ policy no longer norm

www.timesofisrael.com

???@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 2 years ago
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  • suction@lemmy.world
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    If only there had been a way for Hamas to not start this escalation…

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      The situation is older than Hamas.

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        Goalposts

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          I didn’t set any goalposts and I reject the ones set by people who see the previous status quo as acceptable.

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        This military mobilisation is not. This is a direct result of Palestine beating, raping, and murdering hundreds of innocent people, and kidnapping hundreds more.

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          So everything was cool before that, huh?

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      Like if they weren’t denied basic rights and locked up in a ghetto for decades to be indiscriminately murdered by Israel as they colonise Palestine?

      If only…

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        How come neither Jordan nor Egypt will accept them? Why does Egypt have a checkpoint?

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          Sorry what does that mean? Nearly half of the Jordanian population are ethnically Palestinian.

          I have seen this argument before. Could you explain what you mean by “them” and what you mean by Jordan not accepting them?

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            As in, the country of Jordan does not let them in because they can’t handle a sudden influx of 2 million people?

            Think I’ve also answered the question as to how this would likely go, though.

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              Jordan has opened its borders to Iraqi, Palestinians, Syrians, etc. They have a general policy of taking in refugees. I don’t think Jordan does a good job treating those refugees well, but it’s almost a diplomatic certainty that Jordan would let them in.

              So what exactly are you basing your opinion on?

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          And why is ethnic cleansing your solution here?

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            Sorry I don’t see where I said anything about ethnic cleansing but go off bud

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              What do you think removing peoples from their land is?

              Your solution is for them to leave their homeland before they’re killed. That’s ethnic cleansing by result.

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                Being forced to go somewhere isn’t ethnic cleansing. Killing people is. You’ve got the wrong definition of ethic cleansing.

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                  Forced deportation/resettlement is absolutely a form of ethnic cleansing, by definition.

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                    Oh so what Israel is doing to Palestine right now. Hypocrite.

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                  You could not be more wrong.

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    • Neon 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇪🇺🏳️‍⚧️🇹🇼🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈@lemmy.world
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      two wrongs don’t make one right

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        How does that saying apply here?

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          Aren’t you defending the Israelian Armys indiscriminate Attacks or did i misinterpret that?

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            How do you know they’re “indiscriminate“? Isn’t that a spin in itself that proves you’re not neutral? (Hint: it is)

            • Neon 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇪🇺🏳️‍⚧️🇹🇼🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈@lemmy.world
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              I am very much neutral.

              Go through my Comment History and you’ll see how much i hate both sides

              Actually, i’ll save you the work. Here: https://lemmy.world/comment/4367347

              But to answer your questions: Israel itself has announced it.

              Cutting off Food and Energy from the entirety of Gaza doesn’t seem very targeted to me, does it?

              If anything, you are biased. You are hellbent on making the Israelis look like the good guys here, unwilling to admit that sometimes there is no good guy and both sides are absolute shit

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                If you move the goal posts, you’re not neutral. People are taking Hamas’ side IN THIS INCIDENT, but Israel wouldn’t have done anything what they’re doing since two days if Hamas hadn’t attacked the day before.

                If people deny that fact and start to point to past events or the overall situation, they aren’t serious people and can simply be ignored.

                Hamas attacked first.

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                  Hamas attacked first

                  Hmm

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