This might be a minor issue in progressive messaging, but conservatives are not watching fox news like they used to. I’m sure a small percentage is, but most MAGAs I know personally believe that Fox news betrayed Trump, and they’ve switched to watching Newsmax. Also, talking to my MAGA friends and family, they believe that Newsmax is the only truly ‘conservative’ and thus reliable source of information, and every other source of journalism is just liberal propaganda, including Fox News. I don’t exactly know what to do with this insight but I’ve realized that progressives and liberals keep attacking Fox News and I don’t think most of us have realized that Conservatives have switched to a more underground right wing propaganda source. Just for clarification, I dont think Fox News is liberal in any way, shape, or form, but that’s what some MAGA people I’ve talked to think. Edit: I think the danger is that the MAGA propoganda machine has gone underground, and fox news is a decoy to distract everyone from what they really think.

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    Fox News exists to make a profit.

    People read Daily Wire, and at least used to watch OAN, except that doesn’t exist anymore.

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    I think the real question is always which one Trump is watching, used to be able to tell because he’d tweet on the same “topic of the day” that fox was playing

    led to a feedback loop where fox would bring up one of their ridiculous talking points in the morning with the usual “some people are saying”, trump would tweet about it, then the messaging on fox would switch to “the president says”

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      Exactly, and the founder of Newsmax (Christopher Ruddy) has been a close friend of trump for 20 years. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that Trump is approving stories before they go out, if not directly telling them what to report on.

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        More likely that the control flow goes the other direction, and it’s the Newsmax guy telling Trump what to think.

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    but most MAGAs I know personally believe that Fox news betrayed Trump, and they’ve switched to watching Newsmax.

    I definitely have family that think this.

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    but most MAGAs I know personally believe that Fox news betrayed Trump, and they’ve switched to watching Newsmax.

    Rupert Murdoch stepped down a few years ago, and his son that took over literally had TP with Trump’s face on it.

    So they’re not really wrong with this one.

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    This is where it can be fun to bait them in conversation and belittle them. You still watching Fox News? Stop being a Sheeple man. You gotta do Newsmax… But if I’m being real, if you wanna get truthed out of your mind do some OAN. You can just freebase it!

    Edit: note to self, Freebase would be a cool name for a legitimate news outlet if someone wanted to make a start up and still provide quality fact based journalism in the vein of pbs or npr