• PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    The part that annoys me the most about this is the assumption that killing off the five most “powerful” figures in North Korea (ignorant numbnuts can’t even name whom that would be) would cause the dissolution of North Korea. As if it’s the pure will of a few figures at the top that’s the only thing keeping the country together and without them the populace and army would have no will to fight back.

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        One part Great Man Theory, one part refusal to accept that citizens in AES countries can support their political economies for reasons other than fear.

        • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Imagine supporting a western political economy for reasons other than fear. I don’t say what’s on my heart for fear of an FBI visit. There’s no love lost between me and the country I exist in. As an academic exercise for the purpose of education, the only reason I don’t leak state secrets is that I don’t have any.

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      I wrote a full blurb about this on another post a while back that I’m too lazy to go find right now, but it bears repeating that one of the major brainworms in western chauvinists is this idea that authoritarianism is real and that somehow one or a few people can impose their will on everyone else in a society with no buy-in from anyone lower on the ladder. This magical thinking that if we just got rid of Kim Jong Un or Putin then everything in those countries would simply revert to the vacuum state of liberal democracy is built into their worldview and has to be beaten out of it to make them realize that individual persons don’t control the flow of history, systems do.

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        Media reinforces that all the time; the trope of the dystopian future authoritarian state crumbling the moment our plucky freedom fighters off the all-powerful leader is everywhere.

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        This honestly makes me think then if this is more a projection of the staples of fascism, i.e. great figures toppled leading to the dissolution/ideals of the state or at least impacts willpower.

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      They don’t even study their own liberal history, like when French Revolution killed king, tons of aristocracy and their supporters but France still had like 4 monarchic coups in half of century after that.

      What a lack of historical materialism does to mfers

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    the worse life gets in the USA, the more feverish and absurd the fantasies of oppression that are required about its official enemies.

    “sure they’re picking Americans off the street and sending them to El Salvador to rot in a windowless torture camp, but aren’t you aware of how bad it is in the DPRK?”

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    Annie Jacobson in “Nuclear War: A Scenario” notes that the Chinese have a policy that any attack on North Korea - which would inevitably lead to fall out and damage to Chinese people - would result in a Chinese launch of their own weapons. Which would lead to yet another exchange with the entity (America). Therefore, 5 dead NK officials and the civilian population also leads to the death of billions.

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      i’m waiting for the newest spin of “their nukes don’t actually work for some reason”

      since they are shiny and new compared to most, it will probably be something unhinged like “most are fake, they are untested, we have more, golden dome, Chinese concrete, etc etc etc etc” wojak-nooo

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    Oh yeah because that’s totally going to somehow shut the entirety of North Korea, never mind the fact that DPRK also got nukes as well but I guess the liberals need to mind masturbate with creating nonsense hypothetical situation to sate their fetish of mass murdering groups of people.

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    Yesterday I was daydreaming/worldbuilding about Stalin having nuclear ICBMs in 1935 or whatever and as soon the nazis declare war on the USSR, hitting the Reichstag and taking out all those dipshits in one move.