IDK, I do feel like the “can you define those terms and give examples” is a pretty clear tee-up to define those terms and list the incredibly abundant examples that exist for each one.
I’m not real hopeful that sealion-graphic would have taken the point and all of a sudden started making sense (it sounds like they’re pretty deep into a propaganda bubble) but I do think it’s a fair question and an invitation to start making the arguments concrete. It’s hard to understand just how little grasp of what’s really going on the average Trump supporter has; they live almost entirely within a fantasy-world created by the media they consume.
The guy doesn’t really have to be arguing in bad faith, he is just deluded. Somewhere out there is a writing by someone who was deeply religious until talking on the internet and having their beliefs challenged eventually (after quite a while) snapped them out of it, which I think is exactly how it can work for the Trump people.
i think you might be overestimating the average maga cultist’s capacity to come around and admit they’ve been dead wrong this whole time. people get their entire lives wrecked and turn around and say “yea this is awful, but i don’t regret voting for trump!!”
I don’t really know what the percentage is. I do think that talking to people and giving them a chance (at least for a little while, you don’t have to expend unlimited energy on it) to become some of the right side of the percentage is a decent thing to do.
IDK, I do feel like the “can you define those terms and give examples” is a pretty clear tee-up to define those terms and list the incredibly abundant examples that exist for each one.
I’m not real hopeful that sealion-graphic would have taken the point and all of a sudden started making sense (it sounds like they’re pretty deep into a propaganda bubble) but I do think it’s a fair question and an invitation to start making the arguments concrete. It’s hard to understand just how little grasp of what’s really going on the average Trump supporter has; they live almost entirely within a fantasy-world created by the media they consume.
The guy doesn’t really have to be arguing in bad faith, he is just deluded. Somewhere out there is a writing by someone who was deeply religious until talking on the internet and having their beliefs challenged eventually (after quite a while) snapped them out of it, which I think is exactly how it can work for the Trump people.
i think you might be overestimating the average maga cultist’s capacity to come around and admit they’ve been dead wrong this whole time. people get their entire lives wrecked and turn around and say “yea this is awful, but i don’t regret voting for trump!!”
Some people, yes. Some other people change their minds.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashajokic1/trump-voters-are-regretting-their-ballot-choices
https://www.politicalflare.com/2025/02/i-feel-so-stupid-poll-shows-huge-percentage-of-trump-voters-regretful-after-his-sweeping-dismantling-of-american-values/
I don’t really know what the percentage is. I do think that talking to people and giving them a chance (at least for a little while, you don’t have to expend unlimited energy on it) to become some of the right side of the percentage is a decent thing to do.