Zohran Mamdani’s victory over Cuomo in NYC’s mayoral primary has sparked a progressive movement demanding change in the Democratic Party. Will this seismic shift lead to more insurgent candidates challenging establishment lawmakers? The time for change is now. #ProgressiveRevolt #Mamdani
Why bother with reform? The Dems are trash, drop them and get behind a better party
Because First past the post does not allow for that to happen at the pace it naturally requires. All it does it allow the even worse result to happen
Voting third party is just voting for Trump. Dems have to be suborned from the inside.
You are never going to fix the Dems from the inside because they don’t care what the voters want and never will.
You can either get in through primaries and take control from within, or you can build a new grass roots party from local elections across the country and build it up over decades, or you can lose.
You cannot. Both parties are bought and controlled by oligarchs, they will never allow themselves to be voted out.
Yeah that’s what all the “reform the party from the inside” folks are doing.
I looked up PSL. Even if I entertained communism for a single second, they aren’t going to hold any office, much less national office, for several lifetimes. That’s not a realistic answer, though I’m sure you are passionate in your idealism. My approach is to pick the most left-leaning party that can actually win, vote for the most left leaning candidate in their primary that can actually win, and then vote that party in the general.
Which is to say, if a communist ever wins an election, it’ll be by running as a Democrat. Good luck, but I’ll be honest, I hope never to see the day when communism is the sane choice in an election.
And how is that going? The last Dem that was in office gleefully armed a genocide. There’s nothing here to fix, the party is rotten to the core. You are never going to get an actual leftist anywhere in office, especially with the Democrats, because the establishment will do everything in their power to prevent it from happening. The Democrats are never going to allow progress to happen. Wake the fuck up.
No, you wake the fuck up. News flash: if both Dems and Republicans are going to let Israel bomb Palestinians, not bombing Palestinians isn’t on the ballot. You can just eliminate that as a point of consideration.
Does that fucking suck? Yes.
Do some people choose to throw away their vote by staying home or voting 3rd party over that? Yes.
But the country is only going to pick one of those two. So unless you literally give not one single fuck about any other action either party might take, you are throwing away your vote.
That’s not me. I have things I care about. And bombing Palestinians is fucking awful but it’s out of my control in that voting booth. So I vote on issues where my vote makes a difference.
That’s the fucking reality, and you’re the one dreaming.
Suck the shit out of my ass you genocide-defending hog. If genocide isn’t a red line for you then your opinions are fucking worthless.
Call me when they try and succeed at winning local elections. Otherwise, they’re just spoilers helping prop up right-wingers in national elections.
Still blaming progressives for Dems eating shit in the elections lmao classic lib shit
Dems didn’t lose because PSL ran, they lost because they doubled down on the genocide and refused to listen to anything the voters were telling them. They’ve got no one to blame for 2024 but themselves.
No, I’m an anarchist who understands math.
Meaningful change starts locally in one’s community and groups like PSL and the Putin-aplied Greens don’t even pretend to try to engage in local politics. They only run spoiler candidates and disappear for four years. The only functional purpose of these orgs is to help get right-wingers elected in federal elections, while maintaining a facade of leftism and getting rewarded by oligarchs.
I’m not a from but myself, my family, my community, and the Palestinian people have been impacted by people like yourself putting your own egotistical desire to feel morally superior before meaningful actions to help improve the world. You fell for right-wing propaganda and betrayed vulnerable people as well as humanity at large. Congrats?
Considering you think third parties candidates are “spoilers helping prop up right-wingers in national elections” I seriously doubt that.
PSL does a shitload of local organizing and are constantly on the front lines of protests. You have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.
lmao some fucking democracy you’ve got there. “Everyone who runs against Dems is a spoiler candidate” yeah okay liberal.
And voting for Democrats would have fixed that? Buddy, Kamala was just as pro-Israel and pro-genocide as Biden was. If she had won the election the genocide would still be going on full steam, but you wouldn’t give a fuck because you’d be right back at brunch.
The Democratic Party, just like the GOP, only serves capital. They don’t give a fuck about you, your family, your community, or the Palestinian people, who had been slaughtered by Democrat-provided bombs but now get to be slaughtered by Republican-provided bombs.
Anarchist my ass, fuck off
My apologies. I didn’t realize what instance you came from. Have fun pumping that ego of yours and lending measurable aid to fascists and genocideers. While you, as a human being, are worth something (don’t let anyone tell you different), your myopic rhetoric is not and provides nothing of value to humanity or the Left.
If you want to reply with more vitriol and “convenient” redefinition of reality, I will block you but, I’m not going to be a jackass and do so just so that I can get the last word in. Hope you have a good weekend, if it is one for you.
Nah it was your attempt to shame me for not voting Democrat and your constant shilling of the Democratic establishment that was the reason for me calling you a liberal. You’re not fooling anyone with that “I’m actually an anarchist” line, actual anarchists aren’t going to get mad about someone because they didn’t vote for a girlboss genocide cop.
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Not sure what you’re getting at here since the first half of this sentence is incomprehensible. Are you trying to imply that not voting for a party because they promised to continue arming a genocide is “lending measurable aid to fascists and genocideers”? Is that how you try to rationalize defending genocide?
Oh no, not blocking! lmao this isn’t reddit you fucking lib, blocking users doesn’t prevent them from replying to you.
But please, tell me more about how I’m a bad person because I refuse to vote for a bunch of rabid pro-Zionist Democrats.