• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    The left and the American left is a whole different animal. The European and Canadian left is reasonable. The American left this past election went insane and has no business telling anyone what to do. I have never had racism and bigotry thrown at me by the left until this past year. The American left has become the world police and instead of fixing the dumpster fire in their country instead want to fix everyone else

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      6 hours ago

      Are you conflating the Democratic Party with the “American left?” That would be exactly where your problem lies.

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        4 hours ago

        Nope, it’s the anti democrat left in the US that has become ugly, toxic and racist just like the right. Opposite side of the same coin and it’s no surprise, considering you all spawned in the same murderous empire

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          3 hours ago

          lol what?

          I will say there is a problem worldwide, thanks to the level of discourse on social media, with people having much more shallow understanding and much more “punchy” takes without any shred of nuance (like your take). That’s not an “American left” problem. The death of nuance has eroded the entire level of discourse regardless of ideology. Worldwide. It’s why a take such as yours is even debated and not thrown right away as a trash, shallow, meaningless take.

          You can ignore 95% of what I said and refuse to engage on any of those points while continuing to repeat a weak, nuance-free take with zero basis in anything anyone else can agree is happening outside of someone misunderstanding

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            You complain about the level Of discourse on social media. I blame the American bombs you guys dropped on my people, how you treated us and continue to treat us like subhuman enemies. How you blame your ills on my people, who were here first by the way. And now after going through all that, I see young Americans moralizing, and preaching to my indigenous ass about privilege and colonialism. Shut the fuck up and fix your country.

            You all benefited from your empires crimes, you all share the responsibility if not the blame.

            I don’t like to get ugly online, but Americans are the exception, y’all need to shut the fuck up about what other countries are up to and fix your shit

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            3 hours ago

            You can’t see how fucked up your shithole of a country is from within, im outside looking at the dumpster fire. All I see is your shithole empire burning, and even then you have to moralize and police the world and look down on everyone, instead of fixing your god damn country. You are at fault for trump and the instability he’s causing all of us

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              I see how fucked up the US is just fine, I’m talking about your inane assertion that the “anti democrat left” is in any way at fault, or even close to as bad as our conservatives. The US has no leftist party, actual leftists have no power and no control over anything. You’re clearly just another liberal intent on deflecting blame and avoiding responsibility for the failures of your ideology.

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                I am saying specifically that the anti democrat left is sharing the big fault in this past election. You didn’t just step aside but you helped MAGA win. You played right into trump, Putin and netanyahus hands. They made you all dance. You complained about the white old man but hated the educated black woman even more.

                Now that is over You can now blame the democrats all you want but we are all eating shit because you guys decided that democrats were worse than nazis. As a Canadian you think we haven’t had to hold our nose and vote in a less than ideal candidate to oppose fascists? Cause we have. It’s our duty. The young left claims to want change but don’t want to work for it. None of you care about primaries or local elections. You bitch about the democratic candidate that was picked without your input instead of joining the party and voting on candidates and making your voice heard as a member. How many of you voted in the democratic primaries to elect Bernie? Or did you just sit at home and complained he lost? Fix the Democratic Party from within. That or start your own party, go the fuck ahead, but do it instead of waiting for someone else to. Have you volunteered for your progressive candidates? Have you joined the door to door campaigns and fund raisers? Have you voted on your school board elections?

                Or do you just want to sit back and complain about the democrats not changing, without attempting to change them yourself?

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      1 day ago

      The American left this past election went insane

      Oh Jesus, yes.

      Sending Obama to black communities to call impoverished young men misogynistic and sending Bill Clinton up north to lecture angry Palestinian Americans was astonishing in the most tone-deaf and infuriating way.