Unmask ICE for National Security!

  • Phegan@lemmy.world
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    50 minutes ago

    Using scare tactics like this isn’t effective and it will just further the desire for a police state. Instead of saying “these other bad guys can hurt us”, call out the evil these masked men are doing.

    What ifs, especially ones meant to scare people into action will ultimately reinforce the police state.

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    6 hours ago

    And once that happens they will probably start shooting every suspicious person on sight. Yay, fascism speedrun 100%.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    9 hours ago

    It’s simple.

    If law enforcement is anonymous, then anyone anonymous is law enforcement.

    I’ve had security discussions with people who should know better about similar stuff. When someone calls me, I have no idea if it’s you. Caller ID is insanely easy to spoof. I’ve had banks call me and demand I identify myself to them; how about you prove to me that you are who you say you are before I start handing out my personal information?

    Interestingly, they don’t seem to get it. They just go “I’m from xyz bank” yeah… You say that… How do I know you’re not lying? “I’m not lying, I’m calling from xyz bank”

    Dur. We go around a few times with this before they give up.

    I usually call my bank using the number on the back of my card, then ask that person if I was called and why.

    Now you want me to take it… On faith, and the word of the person who is concealing their identity, that they are who they say they are?

    This is the entire fucking reason that LEOs carry badges. It’s so that the public can verify that they’re talking to someone who actually is who they say they are.

    Anything less is just asking for people to impersonate a LEO or ICE agent in this case.

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      That’s piss poor performance from the bank. They obviously need a security audit.

      My bank will sometimes call me if they want something, but it’s always just a voice message telling me to call the number on my card. They don’t even provide the number on the phone message, just to get the idea into people’s heads that they don’t provide phone numbers on the message so if a number starts being provided on the call, it’s immediately suspicious.

      • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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        I told them as much. I spoke to a manager about it once on a call and I’m like, how the hell do I know you’re actually the bank? You’ve given me nothing. Then you’re asking for my uniquely identifying personal information via a voice prompt. Literally anyone could spoof all of this and you’re training your clients to just hand over the information when asked, not even by a person, but by a robocall.

        Yeah, I got another a few months later, same shit.

        I feel bad for the customers of that bank. They’re not my primary bank so I couldn’t give a shit. I’m also security focused enough to know better.

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    lol. I hate to break it to you Americans, but foreign terrorists are sitting back and laughing their asses off as you guys destroy your country without having to blow themselves up.

    And MAGA would say, “see, no Middle Eastern terror attacks thanks to Trump”! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡

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      10 hours ago

      The left is fully aware that the only real foreign attacks on the US are social media destabilization campaigns. We need the right on our side to unmask ICE, and this could be our angle.

      • ThatsTheSpirit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        7 hours ago

        The right is basically chuds, facebook boomers, self proclaimed entrepreneurs and “economic experts”. They have no interest in understanding even the most basic of social relations that they themselves exist within let alone helping the evil left take down their own idealogical para military force. We are kinda veering into re education camp and gulag territory now, at least for many of the most propagandized people. These people are rabid thanks to the media pumped 247 into their homes, cars, phones. They want someone to pay for their suffering as long is its not anyone they know. Until their white neighbors start getting plucked by ICE…i dunno americans and people in general just avoid ontological shock at all costs and the intelligence operatives, and corporate consumerism really fucked american consciousness over the last few decades.

        That being said, i do agree with your assessment on foreign bots. Most of the real ridiculous and divisive political content i come across is simply bots. And lots of inane one liners from rando nothing accounts.

        It seems some of my more maga neighbors have piped down recently tho. I still think their loyalists, sunk cost fallacy, and they def still have fox news on 247…i guess they just really like election season 😭 they have moved on to “god will protect us” yap, possibly guilty conscience but they have a massive distrust of “the left”…although they seem to like me personally which just highlights the tragedy really.

  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
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    Easy Solution:

    The new protocol to verify if the agents are legit would be: The ICE agents will all roll up their sleeves to show their white skin. Then shoot the Hispanic/Latino ICE agents because they are obviously Iranian Sleeper Agents. America saved from terrorists once again! 🇺🇸🦅 USA! USA! 👊🇺🇸🔥

    /obvious sarcasm

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      You clearly aren’t ICE, otherwise you would have included the Armenian flag. They are always doing that. 🇱🇷

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    I mean, you don’t have to make up a theoretical terrorist cell who is invading. That’s just I.C.E. themselves, they are terrorists.

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      12 hours ago

      Oh for sure. This is really for MAGA. Figured if I post it here we could all do our part sharing on platforms they may use.

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        You seem to be missing one major piece of information: They don’t care.

        The more conservative someone is, the more selfish they are and less empathy they have. Most MAGAs are so far up their own ass that if you told them this, they’d roll their eyes and laugh at you. Because in their mind, nothing bad can happen to them. And if something like this did happened, they’d instantly start screaming about a false flag and want to arrest all democrats. You can’t explain to them that they’re wrong, or the potential dangers of their actions, because they 100% will not believe you. They only understand actions or mockery.

        TL;DR: You’re basically trying to convince Narcissus that he’s not that good looking.

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    15 hours ago

    There were rumors that the British SAS would use female burqas as disguises when operating in the Middle East.

    Now every terrorist, criminal, rapist, pedophile, just needs a made at home ICE outfit to do the same in America.

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    13 hours ago

    MAGA idiots would just say that’s the price of JUSTICE (ie hurting innocent people for being the wrong color)

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    Sadly, I believe nothing will happen until a bunch of masked thugs in unmarked vehicles kidnaps, say, very Mexican illegal sounding Rafael Cruz and trafficks him to, say, Burkina Faso, because country of origin or nationality doesn’t even matter anymore…

    And even then the message would probably not get through, and would be waved off with “but that’s different!” :(

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      Exactly. If there are major terrorist attacks, Trump will use that to justify more authoritarianism… It’s win/win for him

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      15 hours ago

      Sow as in sowing seeds. However since we’re talking about costumes I guess sew works too.

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    100% MAGA can probably see eye to eye with the left on this expect the left isn’t really making much effort to do that. This post is great. There’s so much great content and examples of the abuse here. But the left’s job right now is to amplify it. But it’s not really happening.

        • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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          As opposed to what? A single post on Reddit? Xitter? Blusky? Facebook?

          How do you know that the OP, and everyone else on this thread didn’t reshare to those places?

          What exactly qualifies as amplification to you? How high of a bar do we need to pass to be good enough for you, your Highness.