The end goal of Christianity should be to love as God loves everyone, and to will for the salvation of all men, to have no enemies.

    • Lovstuhagen@hilariouschaos.comOPM
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      I’d say a third of people never enter a place of being very reflective about what they are doing and what they have done. I think they are either dumb or calloused, and they do not want to be NOT calloused because their callouses hold together their fragile mental life.

      Another third of people only enter this place of reflection until a significant amount of their youth is over, or even a signifcant amount of thier life is over.

      The last third of people are naturally quite reflective, and they tend to try to avoid slighting others and are quite empathetic. However, they receive more pain from this - they feel a deep sense of injustice because they are surrounded by it, and they may become calloused and even dish out some hatred themselves, right…

      So, I think this is more about the problem of people than a problem of a specific kind of people, whether they are Christian or not.

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        No, you’re responding to a strawman like “Christians are the only hateful people” and explaining how other people could also be hateful. That is not what I said, and your reply is not relevant.

        Christians are the most hateful people. Their made-up framework for the universe that revolves around judgement of sins and being God’s super special buddy allows them to feel holier than thou and justify their mistreatment of others. Every misdeed comes with an exception and automatic forgiveness for them, because they’re a true believer, while every perceived or imagined misdeed from others is proof that others should be condemned.

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          Yet, Matthew 7:1 is judge not lest ye be judged.

          It is hypocritical and goes against Christianity to do this.

          [There is a famous story of a monk in Eastern orthodoxy… He was lazy, slovenly, slow to pray, even eating too much and complaining about conditions. He never advanced as a monk… Yet, when he was in the process of dying the angels gathered and one of the elders who was holy could see them coming to take him - they asked him, how is it so that angels would come directly here to bring you to heaven? He said,

          “I am not sure, but I have worked very hard in my life to do one thing… To never judge anyone.”

          There are other stories that reinforce the idea of non-judgment since it is at the core of Christian virtue of humility.

          Obviously, some people are not doing this. I agree with you. We are bd at this. But I feel it is the case that doing this does absolutely go aginst Christian virtues.

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            But I feel it is the case that doing this does absolutely go aginst Christian virtues.

            If the followers of Christianity are going against “Christian virtues” then Christianity is clearly failing to promote Christian virtues. If your goal is to promote Christian virtues then promoting Christianity will hamper your efforts. Promoting Christianity works against your goals.