• sbv@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    When he cancelled the carbon tax, I excused it as a politically expedient move. Now it’s clear that he’s willing to mortgage our future for some shareholder value today.

    That New Yorker cartoon with the caption “for a brief moment, we created a lot of shareholder value” seems very appropriate.

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      I am willing to believe that “shareholder value” is less his priority than simply “the economy we all depend on”. As long as trade with the US is down 25%, we need to pull some drastic moves to keep Canada out of the poor house. I am willing to feed him some rope.

      If we stay out of a recession, we can get back to a stronger stance. His track record suggests that climate is a priority for him. He did not create the Trump tariff disaster.

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        His track record suggests that climate is a priority for him.

        That’s what I thought too. But the projects his government is embarking on directly support existing businesses, mostly in the oil and gas sector. Those benefit shareholders who are generally more affluent than average Canadians.

        His government has not announced projects that will benefit average Canadians. Nor has it announced projects that will lower our greenhouse gas emissions.

        Rather than “pausing” the EV mandate, they could have said that they’re legislating tighter standards for ICE emissions, requiring standardization for EV chargers. But it’s support for the fossil fuel industry from top to bottom.

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          Well, I certainly do not want the government making it harder for the economy to succeed at this exact moment. That is for sure.

          I am not sure people understand the danger we are in. If we have a second Great Depression, the climate is going to get screwed. I promise you that.

          As for EV charging standardization. The market has already done this. Tesla style chargers are now the NACS (North American Charging Standard) and pretty much all new EVs are being manufactured to that standard.

          If we stopped taxing foreign EVs, ICE emissions would also take care of themselves. Predating the mass adoption of EVs seems like quite a big gift to the fossil fuel industry.

          That said, no pipelines in Carney’s nation building projects. That seems like a pretty big miss if the goal was “support for the fossil fuel industry from top to bottom”.

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            If we have a second Great Depression, the climate is going to get screwed

            That’s debatable. A reduction in consumption would probably reduce GHG emissions.

            As for EV charging standardization. The market has already done this.

            There’s a long way to go. There are many charging networks, each with their own apps and and idiosyncracies. Some manufacturers (I’m thinking of Volkswagen) have restrictions on how their vehicles can be charged, otherwise the warranty is voided.

            Until charging is as simple as plugging the vehicle in at a charger, and tapping how much the owner wants to spend, it’s too complicated.

            That said, no pipelines in Carney’s nation building projects. That seems like a pretty big miss if the goal was “support for the fossil fuel industry from top to bottom”.

            Doubling throughput of LNG through Kitimat is a pretty nice gift.

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      I was the same way, under thr assumption he’d bring it back by a new name as promised. So far disappointed… hopefully when something actually happens (instead of just discussions) it won’t be so bad but my hopes are lowering.

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      Canada has no Left party. The Liberals, Conservatives and NDP are all owned by one group of corporations or another. It’s time for a French (France) election.

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        The NDP not left? The ones who weren’t even in power and used a coalition to force Liberals to get us even the start of a dental plan? They’re not gunna help you? Have you tried voting for them and at least seeing what happens?

        Yes, we are fucked, but it’s because we’re stupid(you especially, apparently). A revolution done by stupid people won’t solve anything but it will cause a lot of suffering.

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      There’s a reason the NDP performed dismally in the polls. Some of that was an aversion to PP but they must own and learn from their own poor choices.

      I am hoping to see another orange rally in my lifetime. I was very disappointed in the Trudeau years.

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        Might anger some with this opinion but:

        NDP removed socialism references from party constitution and are now tripling down on identity politics. They’re never the top pick when it comes to “anybody but conservative” and never will be if they can’t handle dropping their popularity poison. Or at least pretend to. They’re not wrong, but they’re trying to get elected by a mass of people who aren’t very smart or kind. Their PR is ass and they should’ve been buying off mass media like cons. High road is obviously a dogshit tactic.

        Hell they can still do identity politics (not against to be clear, just a realist), just don’t mention during election cycles and try to keep dialogue about it minimal when media asks about it. Not like lying by omission or doing the opposite of what is claimed on the campaign trail stops the other fucking parties. I’m down for playing dirty.

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          Agreed - it’s all about what they lead with. Focus on policies that benefit the middle class. Make those the centerpiece. Keep a strong equality game, but make sure people think of them as “the party for average Canadians.”

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        This is their shot. Bring in a strong leader and come out of the gate swinging HARD. Scream about social services, keeping what we have, recently gained, and will get if they win. If they can’t pull it off next election the Cons will probably take it, and there may not be a Canada left to rally for.

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            Good point. I’ve never been a member of a political party but I might join the NDP this year to vote on the leader. You just made me remember that one of the drivers, in my opinion, of the big Liberal comeback was media coverage of new memberships.

            If the NDP gets a swath of new memberships it could go a long way to showing Canadians that the NDP could have a real chance.

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              Yup and you don’t have to limit yourself. If there’s an important leadership election, register and vote. Then cancel your membership if you don’t suport that party in general. Many of us voted in the LPC leadership election but we’re not “LPC voters.” And we’re now gonna vote in the NDP one. I really hope we can get the party in a competitive state for the next election because while Carney is not PP, he’s so far going down the Kier Starmer road and if he continues, the next election could be CPC vs NDP.

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    Climate targets are there to protect Canadians, our homes and the future of our children. This is profoundly unpatriotic.