• 58008@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn’t been there (which they were) they’d undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That’s a hell of a way to lose a parent.

    The fact that he died while in the middle of talking about trans mass shooters being a huge problem certainly makes it feel like cosmic karma at work. I struggle to give a shit about the man himself being shot dead. But I do worry about political violence… it’s a very rare occasion when murdering someone sitting in a chair talking is a good idea. Not a single person in his right-wing sphere of repugnance is going to do any self-reflection and change their ways, they’ll just become even more rabidly anti-everything left of Hitler. Shit like this doesn’t go unanswered too often. Violence is a contagion with no cure except time, and the clock gets set back another decade every time someone retaliates. I’m sure we could chain all of these assassinations together into a causal sequence. But even if they’re all independent events, the narrative-makers will be hard at work making it sound like a grand battle of the ages, so the result is the same either way.

    Source: History, memory…

    P.S. Any bets that the shooter was a MAGA nut? Seems to be the trend 👀

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      14 hours ago

      I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn’t been there (which they were) they’d undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That’s a hell of a way to lose a parent.

      It’s what he wanted. Quick, too.

      It is fucked for those kids though. Not their fault.

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        Wtf, I knew this guy was a nutter, but never really knew that much about him.

        The USA is so screwed holy balls.

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      16 hours ago

      Speaking as someone with a shitty sociopath ‘parent’:

      They’ve seen enough its not too much escalation. And now they never have to deal with his bullshit again. The emotions will be complicated, but they won’t all be bad.

      You’re looking for someone to cry for. Cry for tye victims of this toxic shit. The kids he turned into nazis. The people who died on the street. The querrs who suffered abd possibly died in silence. All because this didnt happen sooner.

      Cry with joy for those that might live now. If you have that much surplus of tears.

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        7 hours ago

        I get what you mean, but there’s a chance he was nice to his kids specifically.

        I don’t think it’s likely, but there’s a chance they’ve been fully brainwashed to care. I can’t see someone like Kirk being like that though.

        I guess time will tell.

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            7 hours ago

            No, you misunderstood.

            I’m saying there’s a 98% chance he was terrible to his kids. Just a 2% chance that he wasn’t, and a 50% chance that even if he was, his kids liked him (when you’ve seen a person love someone who beats them up, you’ll realize that’s unfortunately very possible).

            Was he extremely homophobic and/or unusually outspoken against pedos? If he was then yeah, very good chance that he might’ve done things to them. Hard to keep track of all the shit he did

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      13 hours ago

      Yeah I agree that it wouldn’t have been easy on the kids. However, if dont think seeing a parent get shot, would be much different than having them die of cancer or anything else really.

      Certainly, the kids have my sympathy.

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      14 hours ago

      Yeah his kids and family didn’t deserve that.

      He may have, but they didn’t. That’s why this kind of thing is usually frowned upon I suppose.