There’s obviously a clear difference between assassinating someone or just saying “well I guess we’ll just let them do their thing”. If they perform violence, you have your justice system. You need to address the cause of why people are being recruited… and obviously stop the recruitment. Just killing people is not the answer
You need to address culturally why there is a resurgence. It probably would also help to ban the ability of hate groups to congregate / show their symbols etc
You need to address culturally why there is a resurgence.
Trump needs addressing, what do you suggest?
It probably would also help to ban the ability of hate groups to congregate / show their symbols etc.
Understand where you are coming from here, but this goes against free speech. If you give authorities this ability they will abuse it. What if they claim supporting Palestine makes you part of a hate group?
Trump was democratically elected TWICE. He is a symptom of the dysfunction in American, not the only cause of it.
Often the 1st and second amendments are screeched out at the heavens of needing to be protected. Look where that’s currently got america, thinking that killing someone is justified… what about Charlie’s right to free speech?
Im not suggesting there is an easy or quick fix. I’m suggesting resorting to killing people you disagree with is a quick fire way to fuel and increase extremism
Trump was democratically elected TWICE. He is a symptom of the dysfunction in American, not the only cause of it.
There is never a singular cause, and there is never a single solution I agree.
Often the 1st and second amendments are screeched out at the heavens of needing to be protected. Look where that’s currently got america, thinking that killing someone is justified… what about Charlie’s right to free speech?
You wanted to ban certain groups you define as hate groups/symbols, my counterpoint to that is where do you draw the line, what exactly constitutes a hate group?
Freedom of speech allows people to say some horrible shit true, but do you wanna spend the rest of time arguing where the line should be drawn. What absolute definition exists here that covers all hate groups and reduces extremism, without taking away rights from the average person. I personally don’t think such a solution exists which is why I support freedom of speech.
Im not suggesting there is an easy or quick fix. I’m suggesting resorting to killing people you disagree with is a quick fire way to fuel and increase extremism
It’s very easy to make this point when you cannot provide a solution. Sitting on the fence and telling everyone what is wrong doesn’t fix anything IMO. I don’t disagree with your notion, he didn’t deserve to be shot in front of the world like that, no one does… But demanding we ban hate groups without considering how we do that isn’t helpful either, neither is pointing out its wrong to shoot people, we already know this.
If you can provide a solution that prevents all of this I’m happy to talk about it.
Yeah but punching a Nazi doesn’t stop more Nazi’s… violence is a shit way to deal with the severe health and cultural issues that you have in America
So we should let Nazis who platform violence and hate just do their thing and continue to recruit our children?
There’s obviously a clear difference between assassinating someone or just saying “well I guess we’ll just let them do their thing”. If they perform violence, you have your justice system. You need to address the cause of why people are being recruited… and obviously stop the recruitment. Just killing people is not the answer
So we should report the Nazi to the other Nazis and await them to be held accountable?
So how do you stop Nazis then?
Just give them everything they want and they’ll learn their lesson.
You need to address culturally why there is a resurgence. It probably would also help to ban the ability of hate groups to congregate / show their symbols etc
Trump needs addressing, what do you suggest?
Understand where you are coming from here, but this goes against free speech. If you give authorities this ability they will abuse it. What if they claim supporting Palestine makes you part of a hate group?
Trump was democratically elected TWICE. He is a symptom of the dysfunction in American, not the only cause of it.
Often the 1st and second amendments are screeched out at the heavens of needing to be protected. Look where that’s currently got america, thinking that killing someone is justified… what about Charlie’s right to free speech?
Im not suggesting there is an easy or quick fix. I’m suggesting resorting to killing people you disagree with is a quick fire way to fuel and increase extremism
There is never a singular cause, and there is never a single solution I agree.
You wanted to ban certain groups you define as hate groups/symbols, my counterpoint to that is where do you draw the line, what exactly constitutes a hate group?
Freedom of speech allows people to say some horrible shit true, but do you wanna spend the rest of time arguing where the line should be drawn. What absolute definition exists here that covers all hate groups and reduces extremism, without taking away rights from the average person. I personally don’t think such a solution exists which is why I support freedom of speech.
It’s very easy to make this point when you cannot provide a solution. Sitting on the fence and telling everyone what is wrong doesn’t fix anything IMO. I don’t disagree with your notion, he didn’t deserve to be shot in front of the world like that, no one does… But demanding we ban hate groups without considering how we do that isn’t helpful either, neither is pointing out its wrong to shoot people, we already know this.
If you can provide a solution that prevents all of this I’m happy to talk about it.
World war 2 would beg to differ