I know that some American tourists actually do this, on giving servers cash tips as if they’re underpaid by their employer (since they’re used to it in the USA along with growing up with that mindset) but overlook the fact that servers are paid the minimum wage in the EU, as it’s not “typically” the norm. This practice is being exported it seems, in another region where that isn’t common.

  • tiredofsametab@fedia.io
    62·
    3 months ago

    Absolutely not. Some groups are trying to do that shit here in Japan so they can stop paying a proper wage and pass off costs to consumers. It’s awful.

    ~ someone who spent years as a tipped employee

    • War5oldier@lemmy.worldBannedEnglish
      3·
      3 months ago

      I’ve heard from a friend of mine who works in the service industry over there: it’s a pain in the ass for businesses due to how taxes work in Japan, as they’re required to disclose the tipped money (otherwise it may be tagged as tax evasion) alongside it being divided amongst employees. What makes it worse, is that in most cases they place either ¥5000 or ¥10000 bills inside the tip jar.

      • tiredofsametab@fedia.io
        4·
        3 months ago

        Legally this is true in the US. In practice, people claim enough to hit “real” minimum wage and no one usually cares (until that tipped employee needs to prove income for a loan or something and they’re screwed)

  • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
    23·
    3 months ago

    You mean should we normalize not paying people for their work and some customer has to chip in? Definitely not. Labour is supposed to be compensated by a wage. A tip is something that comes on top. Voluntarily. It’s supposed to be a nice extra for extraordinary service or something like that. Or if you have enough money and the pizza delivery boy doesn’t, but he bicycled all the way and also brought the pizza up the stairs 3 levels to your apartment. Of course you’ll give them 2€ for that. But at the same time they’re supposed to earn some wage that enables them to pay their rent.

    Also has to do with taxation. If someone gifts you something, you don’t really have to pay taxes on that. If it’s a crude form of a salary, you need to pay taxes on it.

  • Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.worldEnglish
    191·
    3 months ago

    Hell no!

    Who the fuck even asks such a stupid question?

    Let the damn businesses pay their employees accordingly to the prices they ask for. No paying you stuff (illegally) low wages and keep all the profits to yourself!

  • rose56@lemmy.zipEnglish
    18·
    3 months ago

    No, if you want to tip, you tip, no one should force you tip. I generally like to tip, but it’s up to the person.

  • winni@piefed.socialEnglish
    17·
    3 months ago

    no.
    This is a bad habit and should not bwe imported.
    Prices are clearly stated including proper service.
    If proper service is not included I go somewhere else

  • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    17·
    3 months ago

    Tipping is quite normalized, at least in Germany. Just not the american tipping culture that substitutes wages. But it is very normal to round up bills in gastronomy, or add some cash when someone went above and beyond expected service and stuff. Like when I order takeaway and the delivery is made by bike during unpleasant weather conditions (don’t order during dangerous weather!).
    I personally like it like this as a way to appreciate extra effort. The american tipping culture I feel encourages staff to be kind of unnecessarily subservient and guests to feel superior as the staff’s income depends on a guest’s mood, basically. It tips over the power balance.