The Picard Maneuver@startrek.website to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 2 years agoThis is a totally normal thing to find on your food's packagingstartrek.websiteimagemessage-square89linkfedilinkarrow-up1667arrow-down128
arrow-up1639arrow-down1imageThis is a totally normal thing to find on your food's packagingstartrek.websiteThe Picard Maneuver@startrek.website to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 2 years agomessage-square89linkfedilink
minus-squarepinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down3·2 years agoSo what the hell is stopping people from simply growing it in other countries, like the U.S.?
minus-squarepinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down1·2 years agoCan’t it be grown in Florida? Or Puerto Rico?
minus-squareLowpast@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up12·2 years agoHawaii and Puerto Rico are the only suitable regions. And they do, just nowhere near enough, nor could they. They are too small.
minus-squareMNByChoice@midwest.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up6·2 years agoHere is an article about chocolate grown on Hawaii. https://www.chocolateuniversityonline.com/growing-cacao-on-american-soil/ Yup, too small.
minus-squareMNByChoice@midwest.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up7·2 years agoLikely technically possible. Loops back to expense and capitalism. OTOH, someone with the cash to fund it could actually have cruelty free chocolate. 5x the current price is likely viable, but 100x seems unlikely.
minus-squareMNByChoice@midwest.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up5·edit-22 years agoReplying to myself. Article about growing chocolate in homes/greenhouses. https://practicalselfreliance.com/grow-chocolate-tree-indoors/ This might be doable as a co-op. Edit: they got about 5 beans from one plant. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoa_bean To produce 1 kilogram (2.2 lb) of chocolate, around 300 to 600 cocoa beans are processed. 20 to 120 trees per kilogram of chocolate. Note this is not the same as a finished candy bar or baking chocolate.
minus-squarepinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·2 years agoI think we have found a use for all of those old empty office buildings
minus-squareSuperIce@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·2 years agoBut slaves are a lot cheaper and you gotta keep the shareholders happy.
minus-squarepinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·2 years agoThis is why we should have nonprofits produce goods
So what the hell is stopping people from simply growing it in other countries, like the U.S.?
Climate mostly.
Can’t it be grown in Florida? Or Puerto Rico?
Hawaii and Puerto Rico are the only suitable regions. And they do, just nowhere near enough, nor could they. They are too small.
Here is an article about chocolate grown on Hawaii. https://www.chocolateuniversityonline.com/growing-cacao-on-american-soil/
Yup, too small.
Greenhouses then.
Likely technically possible. Loops back to expense and capitalism.
OTOH, someone with the cash to fund it could actually have cruelty free chocolate. 5x the current price is likely viable, but 100x seems unlikely.
Replying to myself.
Article about growing chocolate in homes/greenhouses.
https://practicalselfreliance.com/grow-chocolate-tree-indoors/
This might be doable as a co-op.
Edit: they got about 5 beans from one plant.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoa_bean
20 to 120 trees per kilogram of chocolate.
Note this is not the same as a finished candy bar or baking chocolate.
I think we have found a use for all of those old empty office buildings
But slaves are a lot cheaper and you gotta keep the shareholders happy.
This is why we should have nonprofits produce goods