Citric and absorbic acid
Well shit, I actually buy these in bulk and add them to food & drink.
But don’t freak out, vitamin c is still good for you
“Thus, the results observed here for these food additives are not true for natural substances found in fruits and vegetables,” she added.
but, how? it’s the same stuff, why’s the result different when they come from fruits?
And fructose is naturally present in many fruits but high fructose corn syrup is bad.
The largest difference is 1) the dosage and 2) the lack of other parts of the combination such as the lack of fiber in fruit juices.
Maybe Impurities when manufactured at scale, or that we end up consuming more of than if we got it naturally? Or maybe something in fruits helps counteract it?
Thanks
Is the problem the preservatives or is it the food that commonly has preservatives in it?
However, prior research by Touvier and her team found ultraprocessed foods make up only 35% of foods with preservatives people consumed. That means “preservatives are ubiquitous,” said lead author Anaïs Hasenböhler.
The preservatives. Because they’re manufactured. Ultra processed foods, in and of themselves cause a huge ratio of health issues, and although they seemed to relate the problems mostly to the preservatives, the ultra processed foods themselves, were what was recommended to avoid.
It’s actually a bit complicated and complex, entirely worth reading the whole article. Here’s a couple of exerpts While antioxidants such as citric and ascorbic acid are found naturally in foods such as fruits, they are “not exactly natural” when used as preservatives, senior author Mathilde Touvier
“Naturally occurring ascorbic acid and added ascorbic acid — which may be chemically manufactured — may have different impacts on health,” said Touvier, who is also director of research at France’s National Institute of Health and Medical Research in Paris.
“Thus, the results observed here for these food additives are not true for natural substances found in fruits and vegetables,” she added.
“There is no food group/item to remove from the diet in order to fix things,” Hasenböhler said in an email. “These results also support the recommendations for consumers to favour non-to-minimally-processed foods.”
Ultraprocessed foods have been linked to an approximately 50% higher risk of cardiovascular disease-related death, and they may boost the risk of obesity by 55%, sleep disorders by 41% and the development of type 2 diabetes by 40%. Obesity, diabetes and poor sleep are closely connected to poor heart health.
The studies appear linked, too
That makes it sound like the problem isn’t the additive, but the processed food itself (or a related factor like an associated lifestyle).
It’s definitely the food. And it’s both. The two studied preservatives, when in manufactured form, and ultra processed foods, are both known to be harmful. Their take away suggestion is to limit ultra processed foods, because they all can contain these preservatives. They say that because overall that will have the most benefit, mostly because they can only account 35% of the known preservatives in our foods, yet. So theres still 75% we are consuming, in our foods, that they aren’t yet able to find. Just of these two mentioned preservatives. It’s a long term exposure, kinda thing, it’s not going to kill you if you eat it once, and eating it here and there isn’t as long term damaging, as if it made up the bulk of your diet. If it’s predominantly most of what you eat, the accumulating harm, builds up.
The way it causes obesity and diabetes, I wonder if it’s effecting the insulin reception system, on a cellular level. That essentially the body reads it as sugar and it overloads the system.
Doesn’t this mean they are looking for the wrong thing. The vitamin C is present in these ultra processed foods but it’s something else in them that causes the problem.
I get what you’re thinking, Vitamin c, in an of itself isn’t bad, but artificially manufactured Vitamin c isn’t the same, it’s not from a naturally derived product, and it’s been studied that the fake stuff, used as a preservative, is harmful, the naturally occurring stuff, isn’t harmful. They suggest just reducing your processed foods intake, as much as possible to reduce exposure.
I love how you quote the article and people downvote you.
Yeah, I did quote badly. And it formatted badly, as I’m on mobile. I gotta learn how to quote properly. My bad.
This is a troublesome study making conclusions from only French people and doesn’t take into account the food that said things are commonly in. Or other social factors specific to French people.
i.e. Smoking in France is more common on average
While the findings of the new research are observational and cannot prove cause and effect, the study did a good job of controlling for other factors that may influence health, such as age, body mass index or BMI, smoking, physical activity and diet in general, said Rachel Richardson, a methods support unit manager for The Cochrane Collaboration, an international nonprofit highly respected for its scientific approach to research. She was not involved in the study.
From the article,.emphasis my own. Not saying you’re wrong, and I’m skeptical myself. But I’m also not a subject matter expert or a manager for a well regarded international nonprofit
Last I checked death still comes one to a customer, and comes in millions of forms. So what’s the point in worrying about the how?
Because you don’t just have a set date where you die and it’s just a matter of how.
High blood pressure shortens your life and reduces your number of healthy and mobile years.
If we know what is participating in that decline, we can push it back. Anything else is just letting corpos decide what’s profitable, not what’s best.
Ascorbic acid is metabolized partly to oxalates by the body, so it’s likely best not to have too much.
