• Saapas@piefed.zip
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    10 days ago

    You’re saying it’s fine because they’re forcing it as just the main language and not the only one…?

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      10 days ago

      Can you live in your country (have a job, pay taxes, buy a house, raise kids) without using the official language of the state? In mine is not possible.

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        10 days ago

        These communities existed before today, and seemed to be doing fine.

        The fact people can learn and use a language, without being raised to consider it their primary language, is what you think you’re arguing. It would be nice if you meant anything by it besides “nuh uh.”

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        10 days ago

        Definitely yeah. Are you saying you shouldn’t be able to do that or wdym

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          Are you guys okay? You just say shit to air your mouth?

          Can you integrate into Germany without ever speaking German? Can you integrate in France without ever speaking French? Can you integrate in the US without ever speaking English?

          At one point you will have to learn the official language of the state you live in, you can keep yours but for material and technical purposes (think about the fkn taxes comon man!) you NEED to know at least the OFFICIAL of the country.

          How the fuck is this controversial? This is basic shit good lord.

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            There are older Germans who have been living here for generations and don’t speak standard German. Germans learn it in school now, but not every school insisted on Hochdeutsch in the post-war period, especially in more rural areas.

            Generally they all understand standard German, but not all of them can produce it. Their children can often understand and produce both their dialect and standard German, but their grandchildren have mostly lost the ability to produce the dialect.

            It’s really sad to lose the diversity of dialects, and it’s a direct result of enforcing a standardized German dialect in schools and government institutions.

            China is geographically massive in comparison to Germany and has that much more to lose.

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            You are changing your question. First it was if you can live there without speaking the language. And that’s easy. And we’re talking about minorities in China, in some areas you’d be surrounded by a community who speak the same language as you so integration into that area isn’t a problem at all.

            I mean right wingers push for mandatory language classes (and talk about ethnic unity). This is getting eery. And this is going further in that that it is forcing it as the primary language…