• SadArtemis🏳️‍⚧️@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Are you really defending Trump? You think this is a massive witch-hunt?

    As I said, I don’t like the guy- I don’t give two shits what happens to the guy, or to US “democracy.” But yeah, anyone who thinks that the capitol “attack” was an insurrection, is a sucker who hasn’t seen real insurrection (successful or not) like that which the west has instigated across countless other countries, and who watches far too much CNN. Real talk here- you lot (those who fall for this) distrust western establishment media about China, about Russia/Ukraine, about all sorts of foreign issues- but then you fall hook, line, and sinker for a blatant set-up in domestic politics, as long as it’s “the other guy” (because that is what it is- you may have progressed past liberalism and pop leftism, yet the mentality of the “other guy” remains) IMO.

    Yeah, it’s a witch hunt. The “witches” being hunted are a bunch of chuds who generally deserve it, but almost entirely not for the reasons being tossed at them- hell, mostly they’re legally in the clear. Hilariously enough, the far more powerful and active forces of fascism in the US are the ones massively ramping up the powers of the state, directing precedent in dangerous new territory, and blatantly engaging in political suppression and violating the alleged rights of their citizenry on paper, all while claiming to be “defending their democracy” and “preventing the rise of fascism.”

    Fascism in the US and much of the west is coming in blazing through the metaphorical backdoor- the establishment, ie. the “left” (center, center-right, faux-progressives) and the establishment center/mainstream “right,” and you somehow can’t see it?

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      1 year ago

      I think saying Trump is not complicit in the Jan 6th event is foolishness and accomplishes nothing. What are you trying to prove? If someone commits a crime with little competence they are still guilty by definition. Of course, in an outrage driven political environment, people will blow it out of proportion for their own ends, but this doesn’t change that Trump routinely attempts to rile up his base into committing acts of violence, including sedition, which is a crime.

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        1 year ago

        I’m simply stating facts as I see it. What am I trying to prove? Nothing much really, stating my opinion based on facts as I’ve seen them. As said, I don’t care for Trump and his crowd, and I care even less for American “democracy” so frankly I’m just enjoying the beautiful sights of the empire’s decline and keeping myself informed both out of personal interest, and out of a desire to insulate myself from whatever the future holds.

        including sedition, which is a crime.

        They’ll have to pin that on him first. Once again, stating facts as I see them- they can’t, not without further mutilations of the justice system as it exists, and a further collapse of their ability to manufacture consent with large portions of the population- not just Trump’s followers, but anyone with enough sense to see the writing on the wall IMO.

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      1 year ago

      It was an insurrection though. The rioters were threatening to shoot, hold hostage and stamp over the political power in this country. Just because not all of them had guns doesn’t mean it wasn’t an insurrection.