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seahorse [Ohio]@midwest.socialM to The Onion@midwest.socialEnglish · 1 year ago

Trans Teen Hatches Nefarious Plot To Undergo Years Of Medical Treatments And Counseling To Win At Swimming

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seahorse [Ohio]@midwest.socialM to The Onion@midwest.socialEnglish · 1 year ago
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STOCKTON, CA—Cackling as the steps of the dastardly plan crystallized in her mind, local trans teen Brie Chandler told reporters Tuesday that she had hatched a nefarious plot to undergo years of medical treatments and counseling to win at swimming. “It’s oh, so simple: several years of sweet-talking medical…
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    Most sports are dominated by people with genetic gifts. But having a little extra testosterone from a genetic quirk is a completely different thing than having extra testosterone because you were born with testes.

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      Yet the end result is the same, an advantage over those that don’t have it. Why is one fair and one unfair?

      Sport is arbitrary rules we decide. Some trans athletes are going to be better at some sports, not because of their trans status but because they work hard and train lots. It is just as unfair to exclude them in case another trans athlete has a genetic advantage, that most research says they don’t have.

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        Do you have evidence that a cis woman with high testosterone remotely experiences the amount of testosterone produced by testes?

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          Sure https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7159262/

          Also that trans athletes don’t have an advantage after starting hormone therapy. https://www.cces.ca/sites/default/files/content/docs/pdf/transgenderwomenathletesandelitesport-ascientificreview-e-final.pdf

          Although there are other studies which show an advantage for running (not at elite level)

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      Why?

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        We know things are different because of the way that they are.

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        It is one thing to have a quirk of the same organs, it’s another to be born with a different organ that effectively produces performance enhancing hormones.

        But fine, then ban cis-women with unnaturally high testosterone.

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            Atypical of the vast majority

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                The definition is literally “not being in accordance with nature or consistent with a normal course of events”. How is that a redefinition?

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                    Normal COURSE of events, i… not normal for a woman in general terms.

                    People commonly have high cholesterol. It’s still considered abnormal when you get a lipid panel back.

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          You said it sarcastically, but doesn’t that truly address the situation that you and others believe is occurring, in a non-discriminatory way?

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