• cub Gucci@lemmy.today
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    4 days ago

    Last year, Russia hit purposefully power plants in the middle of the winter to make Ukrainians freeze. Why would anyone think that Russia had suddenly changed the tactic?

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      It’s not the same thing.

      At least 17 people have been killed as blocks of flats and warehouses were struck across the city overnight, the State Emergency Service of Ukraine said. A children’s hospital and school were also damaged, and more than 40 people have been injured, it added.

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        You are brainwashed to the bones if you think that Ukraine’s strikes do not hit civilians or children. You know, like in 2022 Putin was making everyone docile by saying that Russia hits only the military targets. Eat shit.

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          Ukraine missile misses target, hits building. Kills two kids.

          Russia double taps a shopping center killing dozens. A routine tactic for Russians. Drones target civilians. Apartment buildings are targets.

          Not the same. Also, who invaded the other? Who is the one furthering this war? Yeah shut up

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            When you think that Ukraine - good and Russia - bad, why do you flag my opinion as the complete opposite one?

            I am almost certain, that you and I have a similar stance on the war.

            When the war started and I was still in Russia, I was in a group that helped forcefully deported Ukrainians to move to Europe. We provided suitcases, clothing, and even helped with documents. I participated in about 10 of these cases. When I moved from Russia, I was also briefly involved in the help until some incident. After that I participated financially only.

            I also think that Putin has started a devastating war, devastating both for Russia and Ukraine. War is the most awful thing that humanity can do. I have no compassion nor justification to the whole governmental apparatus that fuels it.

            At the same time, I can’t unsee how toxic this war made Ukrainian society and the warfare they perform. I used to have a couple of friends there whom I used to drink and dance and enjoy our short time together, but they hate me for being of “ruzzian blood”. I cannot stand the fact that the same people who were outraged by Russian attacks on civil infrastructure, are docile about the fact that Ukraine does the very same.

            Of course we all want to live in a reality where one can go back and just don’t start the war somehow, but we live in a real world and I’m afraid, we are those who will have to sort out this whole mess that Putin started. And no, this won’t be as easy as regime change in Russia.

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              I’ll be honest I don’t care what people tell me about their real life here. Unverifiable especially in the age of AI and social media. So I’m not sure why you expressed anything of that nature it makes me distrust you further.

              Again, anyone who is going around trying to put any blame on Ukraine at this point is a complete absolute dull fool. You are saying it is the cat’s fault for scratching the child who was abusing it, you blame the victim of bullying for breaking his bully’s nose, you’re blaming the electricity for shocking you because you licked the wire.

              Russia started this, Russia continues it, Russian casualties have nowhere near the amount of suffering as Ukraine and Ukraine isn’t operating to create terror in the way Russia has tried to. Everybody else sees these things, why don’t you?

              I don’t care for your answer again, I don’t trust what you say it’s too cute and convenient. Bottom line, Russia started this and Russia holds the ability to end it. All things that unfold from it are 99.99999% Russia’s fault. If every Russian dies a painful horrible miserable death it’ll be because Putin did that.

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                I’m sorry, but you are a warmonger. The sooner you understand that the war is fueled by people like you from both sides, the better it would be for us all. Take care.

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                  The irony of calling me, someone entirely uninvolved in this conflict, a warmonger while you’re spouting Putin’s talking points of Ukraine being a bad guy at all is the funniest and simultaneously the most pathetic thing I have ever experienced.

                  The sooner people like you stick their head in the sand the better.

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          If only ruzzian forces wouldn’t struck drones over civilian areas, there would be less dead or injured civilians. That beach fiasco is 100% ruzzias fault

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              Have you seen a drone attacking street vegiie vendor in Ukraine? How does this compare to shot down drone crashing on a beach?

              And I am brainwashed somehow 🤔