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      Fun Fact. Named El Niño by Peruvians because effects were strong in December. Have heard it is a sarcastic term, equating conditions that cause large destructive storms to the christ child bringing gifts.

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    Scientists typically declare an El Niño when sea surface temperatures in a key area of the Pacific are 0.5C or more above the long-term average.

    Current measurements show that they are well over 2C above normal.

    Latest forecasts from the Met Office suggest that this warming could exceed 3C later this year as El Niño nears its peak.

    This is fucked. We’re so fucked. I don’t see how we undo the damage to our environment without millions or billions of deaths and displacements.

    • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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      I really wanted to look into the claim made in the article:

      The World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) says there is “no evidence” that climate change increases the frequency or strength of El Niño events.

      However, this is an ongoing area of research and debate for scientists.

      As far as I can tell, there is some nuance going on here that will be easily misleading.

      1. What they are saying is that climate change doesn’t make for worse El Niño events, nor more frequent - the ENSO mechanism that causes them happens regardless and itself has not changed due to climate change

      2. What they’re not saying here but other places do note: The baseline hotter climate of climate change DOES mean that they are worse because the background temp is already hotter, also it’s believed that the hotter climate causes a “tipping point” into an El Niño more frequently

      So alas, either way you state that, there is room for someone to pipe up and be all “nuh-uh!”.

      Definitely one of the things where sound bites makes it worse.

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      Yep. This is literally the nicest the weather will be in the youngest generations memory for life, as they get older shit will get even worse far faster.

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        More specifically the fishermen noticed the waters warmed up around Christmas, and El Niño refers to baby Jesus, because the event happened every few years around Christmas time so it was a way of saying “that weird Christmas time warm water weather events us fishermen noticed first”

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    and still we can’t even by forked voting Green because some purity test means they’re not perfect… so we’ll select the incumbent stupidity (who are Schrödingers politicians because they’re both incompetent and the only choice at the same time apparently) and we’ll do the same thing, while complaining nothing changes, includibg us

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      Sad to see that you fall for the billionaires bullshit. It’s not class, age race or religion. It is the billionaires against everyone who is not a billionaire.

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      so many Gen z voting GOP and other fascist parties across the world,

      doing gods work bringing forth the apocalypse … i guess. /s

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      This will have an effect on the world food supply. But hey, at least you can wear shorts on the winter.

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      I dunno where you are but our winters in the UK have been very mild for several years now.

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        our is too, since it a mediterrenean climate in the west coast of us, but i noticed the winters are colder, and it gets cold sooner in the year. also it matches with the flowering of jade plants(succulents) they seem to start flowering soon, they usually dont flower til around december, and now they do it in october.