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    Murdering people at a music festival and taking hostages might have an effect on public perception.

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      The problem is, before they wemt on that murdering spree, the western world pretty much ignored their plight, or maybe tutted when they chucked a rocket or two over the border. But any kind of “proper” political solution was flatly ignored. It’s not a justification, but I have to say that I umderstand why that situation led to a “fuck it, let’s just rampage” attitude. And look, they actually have a tonne of eyeballs and attention on their shitty situation (and shitty leaders), so maybe something will come of this. Palestinians are paying an exorbitantly heavy price for it, though.

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        It’s not a justification, but I have to say that I understand why that situation led to a “fuck it, let’s just rampage” attitude.

        Reminds me of this.

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        Sure, but again - if you murder people at a music festival and take hostages, even if you might have reasons to do so - you can expect quite a lot of people to not be on your side. The only thing for sure is that terrorists won that one.

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          Sure, but again, if you indiscriminately kill innocent people in Gaza and destroy the very last university, even if you might have reasons to do so - you can expect quite a lot of people to not be on your side. The only thing for sure is that Israel won that one.

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            Absolutely. Not sure why you would think I don’t understand the hatred Israel is getting.

            The only thing for sure is that Israel won that one.

            Not sure what Israel won, despite making sure there will be another generation of Palestinian freedom fighters with rather questionable methods.

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              I wasn’t making a statement about you, I just wanted to demonstrate the statement can be made in any way.

              I agree, Israel bred the Hamas of tomorrow for sure. But they did win in terms of getting closer to turning Gaza into a settlement.

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                I wasn’t making a statement about you, I just wanted to demonstrate the statement can be made in any way.

                But you were responding to a actual person, me. So it would have helped if you clarified it wasn’t about me - don’t you think?

                Israel bred the Hamas of tomorrow for sure. But they did win in terms of getting closer to turning Gaza into a settlement.

                Even that sounds to me like a win for the terrorists - but I can see, people have different view.

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                  It’s directed to you. It just makes no statements about you personally, just responding to your opinion. Hope that clarifies it.

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        Two wrongs don’t make a right

        Absolutely agree.

        A county based on abrahamic religion should know that

        Dude, have you seen all the shit countries based on abrahamic religions have done through out the history?

        ike saying anybody who disagrees with them supports Hamas.

        And the other side says that anyone disagreeing with them is a genocidal nazi. I would say the whole discussion at this point is rather heated and fucked up.

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        Which Abrahamic religion are you referring to?

        If anyone injures his neighbor, as he has done it shall be done to him, fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth; whatever injury he has given a person shall be given to him. Whoever kills an animal shall make it good, and whoever kills a person shall be put to death. (Leviticus 24:19-21)