I always thought requiring premium for 3rd party apps would have been the best and easiest move for essentially no actual work.
I think they view it as ripping off the bandaid now before their IPO. They probably figured they would lose some single digit % of users that would recover over time, and now they will have full control over the experience with no 3rd party apps, which they will want in order to squeeze more money over time.
Reddit corporate is not very smart. Never was.
Spez and his mates had proven way back in the early 10s that they had the mindset and attitude of 4chan troll teenagers, despite being business-owning adults.
hell they could have bought the 3rd party apps and hired the devs
That actually sounds like a great idea
They did that once. Bought the best app in town, butchered it, and now we’re here.
I think one of the biggest issues that Reddit has with third party apps is that they don’t have control over the user experience.
I think Reddit is experimenting a lot with their app to see what works and doesn’t work to get new users engaged. Note that I said new users. Reddit doesn’t care about old users. They only care about growing and getting new users engaged.
Reddit implemented features like community chat, community voice/talk spaces, subreddit suggestions, NFTs etc.
I think it’s harder for Reddit to keep experimenting and seeing what sticks when 3rd party apps won’t or don’t implement those features.
So yeah, bottom line is, Reddit wants more control and Reddit wants new users that are engaged.
I understand why they do it. I don’t agree with how they went about it. I’m mostly upset that they think 3rd party apps are riding on Reddits succes when Reddit itself is riding on free user content/moderation/voting. It’s our content and we should be able to consume it the way we want to.
when 3rd party apps won’t or don’t implement those features
A lot of those features weren’t accessible through the API, so the 3rd party apps couldn’t implement them even if they wanted to.
It’s only weird if you think this wasn’t the result they wanted. They don’t just want the ad revenue. They want the user numbers for their IPO and the tons of sellable user data you can collect with a smartphone app.
I’ve adopted the same IPO theory. Huffman thought this would drive more people to the official app, and he expects that increase to help the IPO so he’d make more money from it. If it works he’ll make a lot more money a lot faster than the approach in the screenshot. Then he can just serve everyone ads anyway, sell data etc.
Also he probably thought we were all a bunch of spineless addicts who would cry really loud and eventually fall in line, and a lot of users have. Now let’s wait and see the quality of community and content he gets after pissing off the people doing the most to create it.
Thing is, the slow boil technique is tried and true. Each turn of the crank would only anger a small group, and would ensure the platform remains stable and popular.
A better question is why is this happening all at once? It feels like the top brass had a meeting to discuss options to increase revenue, and just decided “Fuck it. Let’s just do them all”
I think it makes a lot of sense as a series of emotional reactions, mostly from spez. He won’t back down and no one can make him.
They don’t want to serve ads through the API because ad buyers care about exactly how the ads will be presented. The apps would have to work very closely with Reddit to ensure consistent ad presentation, which is more work for them so they don’t want to do it.
The API price was plucked out of thin air, presumably based on what they believed OpenAI/Microsoft/Google would be willing to pay. Third party apps were acceptable collateral damage.
because the commons is not sustainable as a profit entity, never was. The move to 5%+ rates is pushing every player to “make it” or “die”
reddit is toast.
My feeling is they looked at their user numbers, and the specifically those using the API and/or 3rd party apps, and did the calculation to decide that they wouldn’t lose enough people to cause a mass migration.
I think whether that calculation was correct or not still remains to be seen.
A distant cause is likely the changes in monetary policy (rate hikes). The tech sector has been structuring their capital as if borrowing would always be cheap, and they were unprepared for a sudden flight toward sustainable cash flow.
I think their only hope for “fuck you money” at this point is to cash out at IPO and watch it burn.
