Okay, so background: I’m your average pro-gun fuck-the-police, fuck-trump zoomer honed by years of unsupervised internet access and I’ve just discovered this community and started lurking for a while. But I still hold extremely negative views on China, which I still think are justified.
“Which views?” I’ll throw them out real quick: child labor! internet censorship! media censorship! anti-LGBTQ! uygher genocide? positive and pro war relations with russia! (because fuck putin)
So I get really confused anytime I see people expressing pro-China sentiments. Have I been spoonfed by the media or are some of these points actually justified?


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I should add the obvious point that’s China’s economic development (including the Mao period, when the population doubled from 300 to 600 million and life expectancy went from the late 20s to around 63) has seen the largest increase in living standards and reductions in poverty in all of human history. They are almost single handedly responsible for any reductions in global poverty since the Neoliberal Counterrevolution
The vast majority of Chinese people seem to have an, overall, very positive view of the achievements of the government, even if the reforms were often violent and there has been labour and radical maoist opposition.