• AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    1 year ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Authorities say more motorcycles on the road and less experienced riders may be contributing to a surge in fatal motorbike crashes in Queensland.

    Police Superintendent Douglas McDonald, who oversees the Southern Queensland district, said motorcylists were some of the most vulnerable road users.

    As Queensland Road Safety Week begins, police said their constant reminders to “slow down” and stay attentive remained unchanged.

    Toowoomba-based motorcycle instructor Tony Gallagher said there was a lot more traffic on the road now than a couple of years ago during lockdowns.

    “If you see someone on a side street, set your brakes and slow down, you might lose 5 kilometres an hour, but you’re not going to be late for work.”

    But for all the talk of dangers on the road for riders, Mr Gallagher said he couldn’t imagine a life without a motorbike.


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  • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Anecdote incoming:

    Every motorcyclist I ever see is driving like a fucking maniac, solidly 20 mph faster than traffic, aggressively weaving between cars, using the breakdown lane at their convenience, etc.

    I know there are “safe, normal” riders but the ones I interact with all seem like they are tempting death for fun

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        1 year ago

        Anecdote pre declared, your counterpoint is parried.

        • Sleazy_Albanese [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          1 year ago

          You said every rider you ever see is breaking the law. Which is clearly nonsense. Meanwhile dont pretend you never break any road rules.

          And finally

          solidly 20 mph

          The topic is motorbikes in queensland. Not america.

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            1 year ago

            Both main points you raised related to my sharing an anecdote, which, as you seemingly don’t know the word generally means:

            A biographical event specific to the speaker’s experience.

            So yes, every rider I SEE, implying the ones I personally detect, and personally NOTICE.

            Next I used whatever speed unit I wanted because the condition of reckless motorbike usage is not specific to Queensland, and as I already mentioned I was using an anecdote (again reminder that means a story about my own life, sorry if you forgot again), I used the speed unit that applied to where I experienced it.

            If you’re confused about when I started my anecdote refer to the first two words of my comment.

            Lastly nice attempt with the Tu Quoque fallacy, suggesting I am a lawbreaker too and therefore can’t criticize others. Childish.

            Get parried, begone, drive safely.

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      Where is the incentive to ride safe when they are paying half the rego (too much!) to share the roads with people who so careless that they’d kill them without hardly noticing they hit something? Im not saying its ok. Im saying I understand it.

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        Surely they have more incentive to drive safe coz the price of having an accident is so much higher for them (physical injury, maiming and death).

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          I’m not saying they shouldnt ride safe. Riders doing 80kmh along hoddle street amongst stop start traffic are insane. But doing illegal stuff to avoid cars is often not unsafe riding. Staying the F away from cars is the safest bet.

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        “The vehicle I choose to drive puts me at greater risk of injury and death, regardless of who is at fault, so I’m going to drive in a manner that further increases my risk of injury or death.”

        See how ridiculous that sounds?

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          God forbid motorcyclists try help reduce pollution or congestion on the roads. But nah thats cool, idiot drivers keep hitting and killing us. Its only driving up your TAC.

  • 𝚝𝚛𝚔@aussie.zone
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    So far this year, at the time of writing, 52 riders had lost their lives on Queensland roads, making 2023 to date the deadliest year for motorbike riders for five years.

    I have no doubt car drivers are causing lots of accidents with motorbikes, but living near a main road I find it hard to believe the riders aren’t at least partially to blame for a decent number of those fatalities.

    Unless there’s a legitimate reason for bikes to be hitting like 20,000rpm on one wheel of course. I’m not a rider so maybe this is one of those “loud pipes save lives” type things I hear so much about, where being obnoxious is justified as safety.

    Anyone got a breakdown of at fault versus not at fault fatalities?