Progressives will continue to lose until they give up their morals and descend into the muck of incompetence and greed like us fine fellows, and take the big money dick that is being offered. You’d be stupid to try any other way of winning.

I am very smart.

You were claiming that a single country could undo all of this. I really don’t know how you take yourself seriously. Look at any data. There hasn’t been a pause in acceleration let alone a slowdown.

How long does it take to build a reactor: 15-25 yrs each Main component of construction: Concrete, a major contributor to CO2 emissions How many would we need to produce the energy required to run carbon capture infrastructure: ~1500

For your alternative, it has more merits but the main drawbacks come down to where do you grow it, and how does that effect the environment around it. Growing a shitton of kelp is going to create problems with nutrition in that area. I like this method most but the scalability is still a major problem. The amount you would need to grow is STAGGERING. I don’t know how we could do that and still have any coastal sea left open. Maybe massive floating barges in the open ocean.

Are you under the delusion the climate disaster is confined solely to energy production?

Also the laws of thermodynamics say that pulling all of that carbon out the air would be not only inefficient to the extreme and take centuries, it would also use far more energy than we currently produce ON THE PLANET.

I have no idea where you got 50 years from, but that’s a joke. we couldn’t build the shit you would need to do it in 50 years.

I mean this is a pretty weak ass take and it’s not even really right. Like after this “passes” we will be fully locked in to rocketing off the edge of the climate abyss and there is nothing anyone could possibly do to prevent it. They will try with Geo engineering but that’s a toss up at best.

No one will remember anyone.

I heard $800,000 with about 80 people per flight. Good and cheap!

Absolutely. In fact they definitely had wars about it.

A lot of us did vote. Not enough, but a lot. And a lot of people can kill a LOT of Nazis. :)

I’ll be joining the festivities you can be sure.

Yes that sounds good

Funny that, I do oppose carbon taxes that are not the sole responsibility of the company PRODUCING the emissions.

Trump absolutely matters. This isn’t your avg rightward swing of the pendulum. They have gone full mask off and are ripping the copper out of the walls. This country genuinely will not survive this presidency. 0% chance it survives intact as a democracy.

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I use it IRL and have used the emoji I think once. So egg on your face, you fucking rube! You’ve never been more wrong bucko!

It basically boils down to, “if they had had entirely different experiences and had learned different things then they wouldn’t be like this! We just need to change everything about them!”

Most of them are lost. I have given up because they simply do not want to be good people. They are not looking to make the MORAL choice. They want to win.

That’s it. They would even take us just losing more than they do.

I will ensure they lose FAR more.

I’m pretty sure they have explicitly come out and said that the gesture was what we all know it to be. I’m sure the Internet can verify it for you though

Yes I think that living things continuing to be alive is a greater good than people getting rich. If you don’t see it that way, your opinion of me is meaningless to me. If you don’t see it that way, you are actually evil. In the literal sense. I’m not exaggerating or trying to get a reaction with that.

If you think that we should kill off entire lineages of life so elon can make more rockets isn’t extremism you’re delusional. You think I’m extremist but look at your own position. Maintaining the status quo, given the abundance of evidence about where that is taking us, IS EXTREMIST you daft cunt.

Yes, moderate change will save the ecosystem. Reasonable actions are what we need to slowly decelerate the train and allow us to turn. Which will be possible after how long? When do we see these results? We’ve been trying your way for decades in case you missed it. Look where it’s gotten us.

Get the fuck out of here.

Do you think the Chinese gov planned this and has been preparing for this? Like they couldn’t just curate an entire social media sites worth of content just on the off chance that millions of Americans go there out of spite. Spite is rather unpredictable.

I am pretty close to the opinion that all private companies need to be abolished and absorbed by collective ownership. There are almost no instances where I can see greed being the secret ingredient that makes things run MORE smoothly.

Those bastards.