Am I the only person who’s actually excited to see this?

I mean a court decision may not matter much to a victim of ICE, yes. Fighting in the courts is one avenue of attack.
But what I mean by this, is that every executive order that Trump has done so far to try and steal the election has been overturned. Executive oder 14248 (The one which attempted to force ID for voting) has been permanently blocked into taking effect. His other executive order 14399 (which tried to stop mail in voting) has also been blocked nationwide. Even if these somehow are fast-tracked to the Supreme court and the assholes rule in favor of Trump, the midterms are less than three months away, there’s no way for them to be implemented in time. Essentially his attempt to take over the elections through executive order has been thwarted.

Now, will he do what you predict, and send his goons to sieze ballots, arrest democrats, and just do a full on coup d’état? Well possibly (hopefully not.) But seeing how Jan.6th went for him I somehow doubt it. But if this (unlikely event imo) were to happen, it wouldn’t be “too late” to fight back, that’s when the real fight begins.

I mean if you’re just asking for violent revolution beforehand to overthrow the fascists and destroy the exploitative system, etc all, regardless of the election, well good luck with that. I don’t think you’ll get any normies on board with overthrowing the government “just because.”
And I say “just because,” as that’s how normie John Q. Taxpayer looks at it. Those are the people you’ll need on board to be successful, and they’re not going to go along with it, even if it’s justified. The crimes and corruption and exploitation this government engages is angers people like you and me, but to regular people all they care about is their job, and how much Gas is per gallon, and if they can pay rent next month. You’ll have zero success motivating these people to approve of your revolution without some kind of an event, Like say Trump doing a coup.

Voting against the fascists, for starters.
Showing up at protests.
Donating your time and money for causes you belive in.
Actually be active, and not an armchair activist.
When the time comes, take to the streets if necessary.

Trump’s executive orders to that effect are essentially meaningless, and are being challenged & knocked down in the courts. But to your scenario, if that were to actually happen that’s when going beyond the law would be justified.

Yeah, sounds like Spud.

So the green lazer damages the camera, right? Not that I would ever do that myself.

You know I was going to write this big huge thing, but after reading your last paragraph I see you’re not interested. But thanks, you have confirmed for me that the only reason some leftists support China and Russia is because these countries are supposed to be socialist, and not because of any measurable quality of life standards such as wealth, life expectancy, education, freedom of the press, political representation, and so on.

In real life, Russia and China are defacto capitalist oligarchies, but I guess the truth doesn’t matter to the ideologically pure.

I don’t give a shit what you’re pointing out. I refuse to argue with genocide deniers.
Now I’m blocking you. Bye Bye.

P.S. If you really think the Ughur genocide is some kind of conspiracy theory invented by the west to make China look bad then you’ve got some serious mental problems. Wake up and smell the bullshit please.

Those progressives belong to the Democratic party, do they not? Did you not just get finished telling us all not to vote for Democrats?

I’ve got some more terrible news for you.

Why would this be terrible for me, specifically? I vote for Democrats.

Hey I thought you said “I won’t be coming back to refute it?” I guess you forgot the meaning of your own words. I, unlike you, actually do the things I say I’m going to do. I said this conversation is over - and it is. You know why? Because I do not debate conspiracy theory-riddled asshole wackaloons who apologize for genocide.

Yeah but they have to pay someone to go clean off the mud, right? I mean it drains their resources, also will probably not lead to you jail time if you get caught.

Sorry, what political party is El-Sayed part of again?
Also, which party did you just get finished telling us not to vote for, again?

Ahh, so you’re a genocide apologist. Yeah further conversation between us will not be productive, I agree.

Edit: Since you asked:

o you genuinely believe China has become so advanced at information control that they’ve managed to pull off the first secret genocide in history? Or is it more likely that Zenz, the CIA, and the ETIC are lying?

I think you’re ignoring evidence because it conflicts with your ideology, yes.

El-Sayed is a Democrat, is he not?

Isn’t it just as effective to throw mud on the camera? That way if you get caught it’s not really “vandalism” since you’re not really damaging the device. Maybe not a get out of jail free card, but much easier for a lawyer to defend.

And this is why the left always loses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China

https://www.hrw.org/reports/1994/china1/china_948.htm

I actually thought you were joking at first.

Edit: You understand me criticizing the CCP for human rights abuses does not automatically make me a Nazi, correct?

So your objection with the nordic form of socialism is that it’s too close to/integrated wtih capitalism?
You know China and Russia do all of these things as well, plus the oppression of thier own people. China is defacto capitalist. Russia is all the way capitalist. Both are essentially oligarchies/dictatorships. Both also exploit developing countries in the global south, both have imperial ambitions on surrounding countries, one of them is even actively in an imperialst war. But leftists support them because they’re “socialist?”
Do you understand these countries are not worth your support?

True, true.

You could win an Olympic gold medal with the leap in logic you just made.