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Funny but incorrect quip. The German imperial project ended in the genocide against Ovaherero and Nama, with the aim to exterminate them completely. The Jewish genocide in the “Occupied Territories” is aimed not at physical extermination of all the people in Gaza. In any case the actions and deeds really don’t have to be compared in terms of “significance” (as moralistic judging term). They can and ought to be understood in themselves and the similarities in practices can be looked at. Equating the actions of Israel and Nazi Germany is diminishing the holocaust. You can critique the state without doing that.

The material base and the white supremacist super structure in terms of the German or South African project are much different to the Israeli one if you look at before 1945, or between then and the 1973 war. However I would wish for as principled stances against the USA and that is sorely lacking.

Marx famously was known for not being pedantic about use of terms and phrases.

Israel can’t have Hitlerism, though Fascist thoughts and elements of Ethnonationalist support are not a rare thing. Being more or less clear with terms matters as it is a necessary differentiating element for material conditions and intersectional pressures that happen. Antifascism that we do for decades also means to not equate Nazism with things that aren’t Nazism.

It is a problem when Israel and Nazi Germany are equated. It is also antisemitic and this community tries to be both (un)critically supportive of liberation fights (by less than progressive forces instead of only ideal Marxists) in Palestine and the Levant and not to ignore antisemitism.

I do really did the outdated voice recording of Lenin in regards to Anti Jewish pogroms. Lenin’s real voice reading the speech

Is for you fascism and nazism / hitlerism the same? And similar to settler colonialism? Israel’s genocidal settler colonialism is not Nazism. It isn’t Hitlerism either. Though Ukraine’s military political complex is filled with Fascists and (Neo-)Nazis.

How do you mean that?

Does really read like someone writing their sociology thesis about us.

At a festival where there is also political input the Content is a tent in which political content is brought to the masses by the masses. I liked that pun. However at a less vanilla festival the content was the place where you could have nice cuddles and just chill out with good vibes.

Only if you wear colonial british western garb and ties are you respactable.

Wearing stuff that aligns to the working class or with anti colonial movement from states that are oppressed it is bad optics.

Is shit I did hear too often.

The Soviets did kill quite a few experts when they were too corrupted. It was of course a strategic decision how to act towards them, but it wasn’t as easy as in the USA.

The colonies didn’t really matter for the economy in Germany. It did matter for concentrating capital in certain parts of the capitalist class though.

IN my city there was a case in which cops did watch a joint for a couple of days multiple days per week. They noticed that the amount of real customers was much much lower than the earnings reported. So they took quite a bit of money and had that money laundering charge.

bour geo is i.e.

B(ro) our Geo (like a globe/world) is International Exploitation (of the working class)!

Is how I remember it.

That movie really appealed to fascists quite a bit. Know one who via fan boards for it did smooch up to the the right scene in my city somewhat.

First of thanks for your extensive response. I do applaud you for trying to figure out why you are an other opinion than a felt majority here. Will read it in a bit completely.

As a cop in a police union, your job is to enforce the law level-handedly, not to decide what the law should be.

I would argue that is not the job of the police. Philosophy Tube’s Abigail Thorne did a video “How the police makes the law” about something to related to that.

The idea you write is somewhat of a liberal one that assigns values to the “state of law” that is a good deal class warfare by the bourgeosie against the working class and marginalized sub strata. If you mean that in a Socialist state the police would act in accordance with law, you wouldn’t be quite wrong, but some transitory aspects would remain. However the law would be somewhat different in that it then used as a tool in the class warfare against capitalists. How many people responsible for the financial crisis were harrased by the police or jailed? How many - if you see China is socialist - were jailed there?
I guess that could be somewhat what you mean with governmental position?

From what I can tell, that isn’t really the case in Vancouver because of the extremely large immigrant minority population in the city and the relatively robust system of police oversight in the OPCC.

I would argue is not quite as good as you think it is, while it is an liberal improvement to the status quo. My question would be do you have contact to affected and what do they and experts in the regard, as well as Marxists in your region say about the police?

but I do think police unions should be evaluated from their role of protecting workers’ rights and maintaining worker integrity rather

Which they don’t. However I do agree that evaluation of Vancouver police unions should be done twofold, analytical due to their position, structure and function in the class warfare and general police critique and also in its specificity in regards to Vancouver.

There are a couple of theoretical texts and articles that would apply

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If it makes it better a school friend of mine did join the military and became an officer. During one lecture about China and the countries structure they heavily leaned on the “mandate of Heaven” and argued that bad economy means people think the heaven doesn’t favour the leaders / CPC anymore and there might be a window for “economic reforms”.

Rather than thinking material reality matters for people the Westerners hold up concepts that are at best orientalist caricatures of times long past. He came back from that workshop and was having a hard case of brains.

What is poverty really? The problem with poverty reduction is that you have to have someone who defines what poverty is!

Union of the United Capitalists and Landowners.

Not every association to support a group is a union. Yours is one way, but we could also say that unions in the sense of labour union / Gewerkschaft means something different. Both ways and likely others are possible.

That might be true in relative terms, it is also likely showing that you are in a somewhat privileged position, does ignore their structural impact (i.e. forced evictions actions against houseless and soon to be unhoused comrades, immigrants etc.), but also ignores historic context, their support and enforcement of colonial actions, against single mothers, against neurodivergent people, against LGBTQ comrades and them guarding their fellow cops.

It might also be unaware of how the Canadian riot cops act at demonstrations.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/g20-protesters-clash-with-vancouver-police-1.906581 As example. Some of our queer and alike allies do not want police at their protests: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/no-more-police-at-vancouver-pride-as-organizers-join-call-to-defund-vpd-1.5607249

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So it might be interesting to write in a spoiler tag (if it gets long as to not de-rail this thread), why you have that sentiment and try to seek out some voices contradicting your point of view. For example in my city the police regularly jails people for not having tickets in public transport. Multiple hundreds, often people without the means or abilities to deal with the fines are effectively put into a debt tower. Would you find the police is “that bad” then, or when they use force to deport a person, by entering their house at night, restricting them violently and then putting them on a plane with a for them uncertain destination?

I mean my question honestly. Would you profit from tone indicators telling if something is a joke?

Hexbear has a left unity approach meaning that RyanGosling’s comment is a joke built on re-hashing bad takes from propagandized USA citizens.