NoneOfUrBusiness

TFW it’s good morning at 8 PM. Time zones are a cruel mistress. I’m now at my local mosque listening to sermons and waiting for the group prayer and free food, then I’ll go home and study for my exam (read: watch anime and sleep).

If people see that as weak, that’s their problem.

You’ve got a good idea there. You as a human have a right to exist and if anyone has a problem with that (which 99% of people won’t, to be clear) it’s frankly their own problem to deal with. And while we’re at itlet’s go a step further: People tolerate and help each all the time, that’s kind of why society exists. We should all strive to be able to live independently, but needing help with something other people can do is half the reason society exists and is frankly nothing to be ashamed of. At least this is how I see things as someone who’s probably on the spectrum and has had a lot of time and opportunities to thonk about what it means to be different from people around you. Basically what I’m trying to say is: Own it, be brazen, you have the right to live and do whatever the fuck you want as much as anyone you see out in the streets.

I think everyone here knew Trump would be doing a lot of stupid evil shit during his second term, but is anyone else surprised at the sheer magnitude of stupidity coming from the white house these past ten days?

Trump is working to lower egg prices by reducing demand for them, which is why he’s now trying to kill or deport a significant fraction of the American population.

Well general body shape and height are pretty easy tells.

Of course racism exist, but it’s not something people are killed over.

Uh… I don’t think so. I found these by looking up “racially motivated homicide Sweden”, and I imagine you’ll get many more results if you search in Swedish. And these are people who simply… existed. If an immigrant did anything as inflammatory as publicly burning the Bible and calling for its ban they’d be eaten alive by the far right. I don’t know what liberal utopia where everyone tolerates free speech you’re talking about here is, but Sweden ain’t it. Not with these guys as the second largest party in your parliament. Also if you’re still not satisfied with the Bible comparison, you can make it the Swedish flag or whatever else you like. If you think far right media wouldn’t latch onto that like flies then I don’t know what to say.

While for many Muslims it’s perfectly legitimate to kill people for no other reason than disagreeing with the Quran, you don’t find a similar attitude among Christians atheists or Jews.

You’re repeatedly missing the point, and at this point I’m starting to think it’s intentional. The message of “fuck your beliefs and fuck you”, delivered from the target group’s backyard (in front of the Stockholm mosque in this case) is a lot more provocative and inflammatory than just “disagreeing with the Quran”.

See? This is why Trump is the One True Supreme God-King. When was the last time you were able to quote a sitting US president?

False equivalence, Egypt and Sweden is not the same culture. In EU we have a thing called freedom of speech. And death penalty is illegal in EU.

I never said anything about the law here. You only need one person to not care about these things to get something like the OP.

And I can guarantee that if you burn Bibles in Sweden, Christians won’t kill you for it.

Uh… You sure? It seems you only need to not be white to run into racism and be at risk of being victim to a hate crime. With that in mind it seems that I, a very much not white Egyptian went to Sweden did anything as provocative as burning the Bible and advocating for its banning it seems I’d have real reason to fear for my safety. Because again, y’all apparently have people who will target ethnic and religious minorities for simply existing.

I mean Trump won all seven swing states and turned like three non-swing states into swing states. His margins weren’t very big but in the electoral college he absolutely wiped the floor with the DNC.

In fact, an awful lot of the campaign trail was backing Israel, promising a more secure boarder, lying about how great the economy was, and promising to reach across the isle to work with the mythical “good Republican.”

That’s what I was referring to by “what Harris was selling”. She did have well-thought out policy on her website, but she abandoned or watered down said policy whenever her corporate donors requested a “clarification”. One example is her promise to instate a wealth tax, which she continued to water down throughout her campaign until she ended up with an unfulfilled promise from Biden’s campaign.

I can’t seem to find it when I try to look for it, but I saw around here after the election a statistical analysis of Harris’s campaign trail that found that she, as election day came closer, progressively stopped using phrases related to progressive economic policy such as “unions”, “wealth tax” or “housing crisis” and used words related to democracy and Trump such as “democracy” and “rule of law”. Harris started out as a genuinely promising candidate if you ignored her attitude towards Muslim Americans (which would turn out to be her undoing), and as the campaign progressed turned further and further into a right of center corporate stooge until she became Kamala “border wall” Harris and lost all seven swing states to Trump.

But I frankly also believe that for anyone who supposedly what Harris and Trump were selling and found the choice difficult then you’re kind of a moron. Ethically; logically… Zero sense. Yes, Stagnation is infinitely better than fascism intentionally sabotaging the system.

It’s not stagnation, to make that clear. The Dems were promising a slower slide into rock bottom (they coopted the Republican border wall if you remember that). That aside okay, and? That doesn’t contradict my point. You can consider voters morons, which I don’t agree with but let’s set aside. That is something and whether they were operating off incomplete information is something else; your argument here seems to be built on wishful thinking.

People need to remember… The demographics of Lemmy let’s just say aren’t even remotely reflective of the American electorate.

I mean yes but the idea that the average voter is an uneducated, critical thinking-lacking sack of potatoes who never thinks about politics beyond election day is also wrong. The median voter maybe, but the average voter no. The average voter is an average; the concept includes everything from progressives to far right MAGAsz and I’ll note that part of the reason Biden won in 2020 was his popularity with the former. To take Gaza for example, there’s this poll. People are paying attention more than you seem to be thinking.

People knew what Harris was selling, at least the people who could be persuading to vote Democrat. The DNC’s absolute failure at communication is definitely a problem, but the catastrophic loss they suffered this election can’t be explained by that alone. Many people, with full knowledge of what a Trump administration would mean, sat out of this election. People who would volunteer in democrat campaigns either sat out or voted for Harris quietly. The DNC’s biggest “failure” (they didn’t fail at enriching their corporate donors, so to them it’s a success) is relying too much on being the less shitty shit sandwich.

Part of me thinks this is so they have an easy way to drop prices after people get used to everything costing more

This is a technique commonly employed by Sisi in Egypt so while it’d be surprising that America sunk that low that quickly I can see it happening. And by the way, yes America is now being compared to Egypt out of all countries so… Uh… Good luck.

Wait you wrote this? If so man you have some real talent there.

It says “the left” and not “the Democratic party” likely for this very reason. The DNC is hopeless; it’s time for the people to actually do something.

What do you mean? It was obvious Churchill.

Somewhere on the longer side of a few hours. Just casual third world country things.

I’ve never understood why “Not Republicans” isn’t enough, frankly.

Well there are two reasons:

1-It’ll never beat fascism. The “critical thinking” skills you’re talking about simply don’t exist or aren’t well-developed in most of the American (or really, world) population. The average person does not care about politics, so you have to make them care and no matter how good your stick is if there’s no carror it won’t stick. Voters can wait hours in polling stations to vote for the smaller shit sandwich against the bigger shit sandwich, or they can just… not do that and go about their day. The consequences will only come later, meanwhile the disappointment and indignation come now. Humans simply aren’t made to take the lesser evil here.

2-Voting for a politician is an inherently transactional affair. You vote for them and if they gain power they use it to pass the bills you want them to pass, or at least prevent bills you don’t want to pass from passing. The Democrats stopped honoring that transaction, and in their misguided rightward shift crossed too many red lines. They angered Muslims and progressives by their stance on Gaza, they angered left-leaning Latinos by their stance on immigration, and angered the average voter by pretending that the economy was fine and that they were doing a terrific job when it was not and they were not, etc etc. I remember seeing a comment here a little ways back saying something to the effect of “I’m a Latino and I used to vote blue because of immigration, but now they adopted the republican position so they lost my vote”. Repeat this enough times and you have a significant fraction of their support base saying “you don’t care about me or my struggles? Then fuck you too” and not voting on election day.

This is peak Onion. If we’re gonna get satire like this for the next four years then Trump 2.0 might be almost worth it. Almost.

Can they… Do that? Are they not bound by contract or something?