Well then, thank God you weren’t the one in power back then, or we would’ve lost the war. Hopefully, no one like you ever gets near the levers of power.

The Nazis and “Bolsheviks” did fight each other and become severely weakened because of it. 27 million Soviets gave their lives in the heroic struggle to save the world from the Nazis.

Btw:

they begin to seriously lecture me about how there is no evidence that cookies make people explode

No one “seriously lectured you” on that.

I’m going to assume there is something mentally wrong with them.

You assume everyone who disagres with you (and many who do agree with you) has something mentally wrong with them. It’s a common symptom of people who think they’re smarter than they actually are.

It’s like a Twilight Zone episode.

Hmm, I’m not sure what that would look like. “In a world… where someone criticizes people for getting vaccinated… people treat that person as being anti-vaccine.” Not exactly a twist.

Dang. I feel like I’m in an I Think You Should leave skit.

Lol, yes, you do seem like someone from an I Think You Should Leave skit.

So let me get this straight. You think that if someone, anyone really, thinks that the president might have violated a law, they should be immediately thrown in jail until it’s resolved? Even the cleanest person in the world would be spending their entire term in a jail cell.

They do. Most people are not as irrational and simple as you are

You keep insisting this but it’s not true. No one except you and the bots are getting confused about this.

Lmao! Yes, I suppose if you simply label all the people who interpret your comment a certain way as “bots” then you can say that anything means anything!

Yes. It is. If you pretend to be a Nazi and spread Nazi propaganda, you are a Nazi. That’s what Mother Night is all about.

Either you misunderstand, or you’re pretending to misunderstand.

If I go around talking shit about people who accept the consensus view on the Holocaust, if I call them all sheep who just believe whatever they’re told, and then I say that actually I accept the consensus view, but it’s because I’m rational and researched it myself, I do not get to hide behind that last part to excuse the first part. If I pretend I didn’t rob a bank, that doesn’t make me not a bank robber. You’re trying to twist Voggnaut’s message around to justify dishonesty.

Again, I’m caught between the two possibilities. Either you’re a pretentious narcissist who thinks you’re way smarter than you actually are (and than everybody else) and are quoting Voggunaut to sound smart, or you’re deliberately trolling and throwing that out to muddle the facts.

I’m not doing that. That’s all in your head, pal.

Oh really! So the part where you had that whole rant about “Regulations are written in blood,” that was all in my head, was it? The parts where you’ve repeatedly attacked “political hobbyists” for getting the vaccine, those were also all in my head? The parts where you’ve called me “psychotic” and a “lunatic” for being pro-vaccine, again, all in my head?

Fuck right the hell off with your trolling and your attempts to spread doubt.

I’m not though because the vast majority of people are not political hobbyists and they, like me, did not get the vaccine because it was fashionable. They got it because it was reasonable

That was absolutely not the impression anyone would get from reading your initial comment.

Even if I’m pretending to encourage people to get vaccinated, it is still encouraging people to get vaccinated. You are who you pretend to be.

Lol that’s not how that works. You’re actively sowing confusion and doubt and attacking people for being pro-vaccine, and then you defend this behavior by saying you’re actually pro-vaccine. I don’t mind the part where you say you’re pro-vaccine. I mind the other part, the part where you’re discouraging people from getting vaccinated.

Oh come on, you have to be less obvious when you troll!

Yes, I’m sure bashing everyone else who got the vaccine as a brainwashed hypocrite who’s just following trends is the way to encourage more people to get the vaccine. Yes, what a “rational” response to assert that you’re the only person who got it for rational reasons and that everyone else is an idiot.

Come on, you know as well as I do that none of your comments from the very beginning have been about encouraging anyone to get vaccinated. At best it’s about trying to feel superior to everyone. At worst it’s trying to pick a fight and spread confusion and doubt.

And you’re calling me a lunatic on the basis that I’m pro-vaccine, the position that you claim to hold.

You’re just a troll trying to stir up drama. That’s all you are, 100%.

That’s not how anything works.

See, you’re doing it again right now, exactly like I described. You’re playing this game of criticizing people for getting the vaccine, attacking motives, while giving yourself plausible deniability by saying that you got it because it was rational.

How do you know that I and other people did not also get it because it was rational? Why do you even care why people got it? If it’s the rational choice, you should be glad that it was “fashionable.”

I guess this does open up another possible interpretation, which is that you’re a narcissist who just assumes everyone else is stupid even when they’re making the same decision as you and feel this need to present yourself as better than everyone else. I’m not sure whether that’s better or worse than simply trolling. You’re a complete, absolute dickhead who’s poisoning the well either way.

It’s very debatable whether he actually broke the law in this instance. Attacking Iran without congressional approval is allowed by the War Powers Resolution of 1973. The argument against that is that the powers outlined in that resolution are meant to be “emergency powers” but “emergency powers” are very easy to invoke and I’m not aware of any precedent of a president not being permitted to invoke them. And the US hasn’t formally declared war since WWII, so they’re invoked fairly often.

Getting more clearly restrictive laws in place would be a good thing, and getting Republicans on record as opposing them is only mostly useless (look, it’s a low bar) because it does at least make it a little harder for them to pass themselves off as “antiwar.”

I wish I was a bot so I wouldn’t have to worry about the diseases you’re gonna spread with your idiotic troll shit.

But it surprised me that the crowd that are terrified of Forever Chemcalz, atomz, BPA, microplastics and frequently scream “Regulations are written in blood!” were chomping at the bit to force everyone to get injected with a product from Big Pharma that was fast tracked and bypassed all normal regulations to get to market as soon as possible by the executive orders of a billionaire president they despised.

That sounds a hell of a lot like criticizing pro-vaccine people as hypocrites because we’re supposedly the same group that scream “Regulations are written in blood.”

I made a joke about the possibility that vaccines could cause people to explode and they’re taking it at face value.

Nobody took it at face value, you lying troll.

bots bots bots bots bots bots bots

The fact that we don’t put up with your troll shit doesn’t make us bots.

The way you troll is by saying more people should be antivax and then explaining (once pressed) that you’re actually pro-vaccine and just want them to be internally consistent with principles they don’t actually hold.

You’re not being clever with this shit, you’re just helping to poison the well.

So you can’t name a single notable figure.

“Google it” is that the standard now? All that shows it that some random people on the internet say it. It doesn’t prove that those people are the same ones who support regulations regarding vaccines. It also doesn’t show that it represents any real meaningful movement.

It’d be like if I said, “Why do so many people scream ‘taxation is theft’ and then support burglery?” and when someone asks, “Do they support burglery? Who?” I respond, “Just Google it and you’ll see lots of people saying that phrase.”

You’re just a troll. And one of the worst kinds of trolls, someone who trolls about vaccines. Your stupid little games get people killed.

People are reacting to the headline, but the article is basically the opposite of what most people assume. This is The Atlanic. Their problem is that the Democrats aren’t doing enough austerity.

Tbf, the US is heading towards a debt crisis. However, the reason for that is because of the absurdly bloated military budget and pointless adventurism, while the article frames it entirely in terms of “taxes are too low and we spend too much on social programs.” How are the Democrats supposed to win without promising the voters anything? This is never addressed. But that’s apparently the lesson the author thinks they should learn. Run on austerity, if you somehow manage to win, prioritize the debt - and then when they inevitably lose the next election because everyone’s lives got worse, the Republicans will have more money to play with to fund things like ICE and the Iran War.

It’s nonsense. Winning means promising QoL improvements and following through on them. Yeah the debt is a problem, but that’s exactly why military cuts are necessary. Trying to solve the debt problem just creates a political problem, it’s the sort of thing to worry about once you’ve already secured power.

For me, if evidence pops up years down the road that it has a statistically increased chance of causing cancer or whatever, it’s no big deal

So you’re just a troll. “Why don’t more people adopt an unreasonable position?”

There were/are plenty of antivax hippie types. You seem to be trying to lump everyone on the left as being on the same page as them. Who are all these people screaming “regulations are written in blood,” at you? I’ve never heard the phrase in my life. Apparently this represents so broad cultural movement? Can you name some notable public figures who oppose all regulations except when it comes to vaccines?

Or are you just pulling all of this out of your ass to troll?

Bruh I’ve hated you pro-disease morons long before AI existed. I don’t care if “everyone agrees with me” except on topics where you’re causing children to die of preventable diseases for no fucking reason.

We had literally solved the problem of measles, and now you’ve brought it back out of pure foolishness.

No it isn’t. Not even remotely.

Jesus Christ, the Nurglites have come out of the woodwork in this thread.