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5 days agoAnother Zen user chiming in to say, all the other ones seem confusing and cluttered now.


Another Zen user chiming in to say, all the other ones seem confusing and cluttered now.


Fantastic.


What’s next? Cameras behind the bike sheds?!


I totally agree. I also think that the whole field since the 80s should be studied in social science as a masterclass in how corporate interests can influence public discourse and government policy to achieve outcomes that benefit business at the expense of people and the environment.
I use Organic Maps as my standard maps app which is an Open Street Map based app. I find it’s pretty good but can be a bit lost around heavy traffic. Cycling is definitely an option. I’ve not seen “collaborative lists” in the software but I’ll take a look. I sometimes use the google maps web service because for some reason Open Street Maps doesn’t display suburb when searching for a location and it can be really confusing to figure our which one you are looking for.