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  • It’s reductive but profit in that sense isn’t required for commerce and trade. As in, it is possible (technically) for commerce to exist and every trade be fair, there isn’t really a fundamental law of the universe that requires commerce to be for profit.

    The point they were likely making is that, in typical capitalist systems, the capital owners fundamentally make their money by finding arbitrage in the total cost to produce and the sale price.

    Looking at it as an abstraction of any individual items it’s, in order for the capitalist to make money from capital they must extract the value from the trade and keep it, e.g. the item costs $10 and is sold for $11 and the capitalist keeps $1. If the item really cost $10 to make then the extra dollar is just overcharging.

    Whether or not you think that the overcharging is fair is where the arguments happen. The capitalists argue that their ownership offers an intrinsic value (the risk), opponents argue that it doesn’t. And so the capitalist argues that the item cost $11 to make and that their stake is part of the cost.

    It is true that in a profit bearing scenario, someone has to be the loser and it is inherently zero sum, you cannot make a profit without someone along the line not getting the value they are entitled to.

    It may feel like simple transactions are fair, but what typically happens is that fractions of a percent are scraped off throughout an entire chain of logistics, whether it’s slave labor over seas, or just more blatant things like creating ‘value’ by introducing artificial scarcity, the abstracted end result is someone getting more value than they create which means someone else must get less value than they create.

    I’d like to add that communism doesn’t actually solve this problem, because an inherently fair trade doesn’t always mean that both parties are equitable. Some people are able to produce more than others. Systems like communism, typically aim to make things equitable for everyone, not fair. I think it’s an important distinction because a completely ‘fair’ system would be a true meritocracy that leaves people with less capabilities behind.



  • You kind of get it, it’s not really a dictionary, it’s more like a set of steps to transform noise that is tinted with your data, into more coherent data. Pass this input through a series of valves that are all open a different amount.

    If we set the valves just perfectly, the output will kind of look like what we want it to.

    Yes, LLMs are prone to hallucinations, which isn’t always actually a bad thing, it’s only bad if you are trying to do things that you need 100% accuracy for, like specific math.

    I recommend 3blue1browns videos on LLMs for a nice introduction into how they actually work.


  • I’ll just say, it’s ok to not know, but saying ‘obviously’ when you in fact have no clue is a bad look. I think it’s a good moment to reflect on how over confident we can be on the internet, especially about incredibly complex topics that cross into multiple disciplines and touch multiple fields.

    To answer your question. The model is in fact run entirely locally. But the model doesn’t have all of the data. The model is the output of the processed training data, kind of like how a math expression 1 + 2 has more data than its output ‘3’ the resulting model is orders of magnitude smaller.

    The model consists of a bunch of variables, like knobs on panel, and the training process is turning the knobs, the knobs themselves are not that big, but they require a lot of information to know where to be turned too.

    Not having access to the dataset is ok from a privacy standpoint, even if you don’t know how the data was used or where it was obtained from, the important aspect here is that your prompts are not being transmitted anywhere, because the model is being used locally.

    In short using the model and training the model are very different tasks.

    Edit: additionally, it’s actually very very easy to know if a piece of software running on hardware you own, is contacting specific servers. The packet has to leave your computer and your router has to tell it to go somewhere, you can just watch it. I advise you check out a piece of software called Wireshark.



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    Well an uppercase ASCII char is a different char than its lowercase counterpart. I would argue that not differentiating between them is an arbitrary rule that doesn’t make any sense, and in many cases, is more computationally difficult as it involves more comparisons and string manipulations (converting everything to lower case).

    And the result is that you ultimately get files with visually distinct names, that aren’t actually treated as distinct, and so there is a disconnect from how we process information and how the computer is doing it.

    ‘A’ != ‘a’, they are just as unequal as ‘a’ and ‘b’

    Edit: I would say the use case is exactly the same as programming case sensitivity, characters have meaning and capitalizing them has intent. Casing strategies are immensely prevalent in programming and carry a lot of weight for identifying programmers’ intent (properties vs backing fields as an example) similar intent can be shown with file names.





  • So a service company that only pays salaries has 100% profit?

    This is splitting hairs and if all the people arguing about this took an actual class in uni a out this they would know that.

    Gross profit typically includes cost of goods sold, COGS doesn’t have an explicit legal definition, it’s up to the business to decide what they include, they can include employee salaries or not, this is called abortion costing, a business which puts salaries, rent utilities, etc, under abortion cost would have a gross profit equal to their net profit.

    When dealing with accounting, you can call things whatever you want, net profit isn’t something that has a legal definition.

    For example, I just decided that my business doesn’t follow your definition of profit, and instead defines profit as only money I find in my pockets. There isn’t a legal definition of how I need to define profit, so it’s just as valid as all the other definitions.

    And regardless of all that, I don’t understand how anything you said proves me wrong. Profit is net profit, just the same as profit is gross profit, you can put an arbitrary boundary at any point in a financial metric and it makes sense to do so, but it doesn’t change what the word profit means. But the claims that ‘if you don’t profit you have to go in debt’ is just silly and only makes since if you cherry pick a very narrow definition of profit that is used as one part of a general financial metric for a business.

    A company that has revenue - all expenses = 0 does not need to be in debt, this is also how a non profit will look, 1 million in revenue, 500k in general expenses, 500k reinvestment into the company final result 0 dollars left over. The effective meaning and understanding of profit for practical purposes and lay people (not book keepers within a company that needs more refined and specific metrics) is the amount of money that gets distributed to stakeholders after a company has covered its expenses.

    Your block about non profits is exactly my point. A non profit does not pay out the left over money to stakeholders but people who work for a non profit still make money.






  • Being on lemmy at all is going to come with huge confirmation biases.

    Something to consider is that most of these issues with common social media are intangible at best and straight up invisible at worst for most users.

    Most people don’t care strongly enough about any of these apps or websites to be bothered. Go ask strangers on the street what they think of spez’s this or that and they will say ‘who’s spez’ followed by, ‘oh, I don’t really care’.


  • How is the doctor going to provide any legitimate care that the new technology of the world brings if there is no one to generate the power or source the complex and fragile medications and tools.

    Do you think doctors will be administrating epidurals and doing c sections when the works ends? Hell, modern doctors only really work because of an entire industry of health care professionals that support them.

    A doctor without pharmacology, engineering, clean rooms, manufacturing facilities, etc. is just a guy who can do first aid (and that’s assuming they worked and studied in a field that would deal with immediate trauma scenarios). Doctors have benefits because they can capitalize on the support system that is international health care.

    I have more confidence that an engineer could figure out how to repair, assemble, and operate an MRI machine than a doctor. I also have more confidence in the care that an EMT would provide if I’m lying bleeding.

    90 percent of doctors are just dudes who mis diagnose women and minorities and spend most of their time writing prescriptions for tylenol.

    When it comes down to what is actually necessary, I think most doctors are not, so if we are ranking professions based on their importance, I would rank the jobs that even enable doctors to do what they do higher.

    Also, not to be morbid, but humanity fared pretty well up until now, and for most of the few hundred thousand years we have been around, we handled babies the same way the rest of the animal kingdom did, by just continuing to spit them out and hope for the best.

    Hell, the biggest medical advances aren’t even done by doctors they are done by scientists, doctors just apply shit they read out of a book.


  • This is too philosophical to be practical imo.

    If the argument is that everything that requires creativity (read: requires independent thoughts and conclusions) is art, then the definition starts to become useless.

    UX design is creative, but it isn’t always art, following rigid accessibility guidelines set by governing bodies isn’t art, even if you sometimes need to be creative in your implementation.


  • I wonder if doctors get elevated on these polls because people feel like it is a more unattainable skill.

    I would imagine a lot of people (falsely) assume that it would be easy to plop people into power plants to keep them running, but harder to replace doctors.

    My completely unknowledgeable take is that if we had to pick and choose people for the post apocalypse job hunt, we would want way more mechanics and engineers than doctors. Doctors need a lot of hard to obtain stuff to do the most doctor-ey part of their jobs, and if we aren’t worried about laws and regulations, then we don’t need them for things like prescriptions.

    Most of what they would be needed for in that scenario to me seems like emergency care, like first aid, which you don’t really need all the superfluous med school training for.

    Meanwhile, the hydroelectric dam that the new post apocalypse group is forming at needs a lot of varied disciplines and specialties just to keep it running.