

Well, they signed Stuart Skinner, so I guess he counts.
Have you ever considered that the Prime Directive is not only not ethical, but also illogical, and perhaps morally indefensible?


Well, they signed Stuart Skinner, so I guess he counts.


I assumed they used neutrinos because they’re closely associated with the Bajoran wormhole (and I think wormholes in general?).
I don’t mind there being some sort of Super Secret Special neutrino that only exists under circumstances that can’t really be replicated, but it is a very silly particle.


For me, it was the moment where she patched the hole in her quarters - despite her fixing that specific problem, it suddenly made me dread what the outcome might be for her.


this episode really suffered from prequelitis
I never really feel this way - realistically, the main cast is virtually never in danger of dying, regardless of whether we know what happens next, so it doesn’t really interfere with my enjoyment of the story being told.
I guess this is meant to be borrowing from the 24 style of show
Yeah, it did occur to me that the countdown seemed to be happening in real time. I guess that explains the occasional splitscreen, which in itself feels like a very 1960s thing to do, even though it’s not something that Star Trek did.
a line that sounds superficially vulcan but which under scrutiny makes no sense
Yeah, I did not like that.


I was a little underwhelmed by the demo, but I’m hopeful that it’s been improved, because this sort of game should be right up my alley.


Pretty enjoyable episode - I feel like it’s been a while since we’ve seen a good “disaster” (or “Disaster,” if you prefer) outing.
The Chapel/M’Benga plot was affecting - M’Benga may decide not to leave, but they seem to be laying the groundwork for him to take a subordinate position to McCoy once he eventually shows up.
The Scotty plot has the most long-term impact, I think…enough impact that I was beginning to think Pelia wouldn’t survive the day.
I liked the callbacks in this one - they mostly seemed organic. The sudden return of Boyce was the biggest surprise. I couldn’t figure out why he looked so familiar, but it turns out Brian Markinson is a Trek veteran, playing several characters throughout the 90s, including my boy Elias Giger.
Beyond that, we got a weird TMP-style warp wormhole, and Kirk’s ion pod from “Court Martial.”
Big fun, all around.


They saved it for the very end - September 1, running for three weeks.


The gravity globe is such a weird little thing - I guess it’s called that because of the way it hangs in the air? Pretty risky when you’re in a planet orbiting a black hole, that’s also projecting some kind of gravity funnel into deep space.
Even weirder is the fact that it’s recurring - the Anglican Marines use one in Matt Smith’s Weeping Angels two-parter.
also implying there’s no way Rose can get back to the other universe where Mickey and Pete are.
I like this thought - it had never occurred to me before.


What’s that you say? You were underwhelmed by last week’s bland TV lady as a villain? Can I interest you in the actual, Biblical Satan?
I don’t think I quite knew what to make of this episode when I first saw it - it’s so unlike anything else we’ve seen in the new series. But hot damn, do I ever love it now.
There’s a base! And it’s under siege! Groundbreaking! The Doctor’s quip about these bases being built out of kits is another bit that I definitely didn’t appreciate at the time, but it’s pretty funny. I think the Doctor/Rose relationship is in its ideal state here. Low-key flirty in a way that feels pretty real, without being maudlin (though it walks up to that line as they discuss what they’ll do if they ever escape Sanctuary Base 6).
The episode handles the base crew very well - they’re necessarily sketched out quickly, but they all seem like living, breathing people, and I really felt it when poor Toby and Scooti met their fates. Will Thorp deserves particular credit for making Toby seem like a sympathetic character, and then flipping to seeming incredibly threatening once he’s been taken over by the Beast.
Pretty nice spacesuits. I wonder if we’ll ever see them again.
I’m sure there’s loads that can be said about this episode, but I dunno. It’s great. Bring on the next one. I’ll be waiting here with an inverted self-extrapolating reflex of 6 to the power of 6 every 6 seconds.


Pike’s decision to go along with a planetary genocide on a hunch was indefensible to say the least.
And I think that’s the most compelling part!
TBH, one could argue that this season has been pretty successful, if the number of discussion points is anything to go by.


I pay even less attention to the numbers than you do, and I can say that I find the trilithium-enhanced tricobalt torpedo launcher very satisfying to play. That’s enough for me.


Honestly, I think “A Case of Chiaroscuro” deserves another look. If you disregard the B&W “gimmick” (which I think served the story quite well, but YMMV), I think the A- and B-stories are good, classical Trek.
A little TOS-y in some respects, but I don’t consider that a knock against.


Yeah, I couldn’t be less interested in unreliable, easily-manipulated aggregate "scores, " regardless of whether I agree with what they say. This whole site is for people to share their own opinions in a genuine and intelligent way, and that’s far more interesting to me.


Every one commits treason who, in Canada,
(a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province;
(b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada;
© conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a);
(d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or
(e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act.
CBC:
The Criminal Code defines treason primarily as the use of force to overthrow the government or sharing with another state information that may be used for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada.
Seems pretty much the same?


It means that spock was the only character that had opportunity for development and growth, and no-one else gets to share in that.
This is true. I do think they did a fair amount with it in that respect, though, and he’s now pretty firmly on the trajectory he needs to be on to line up with his TOS characterization. And I’ll give full credit to Ethan Peck for selling his barely-restrained panic attacks (full-blown meltdowns by Vulcan standards, I’m sure).


I thought the answer would have been Looney Tunes style cartoon physics. Like they can win, but so long as it’s a gag / funny. Maybe they tried doing that and it didn’t quite land.
Yeah, I think there was a degree of that in the final solution, with La’An running across the walls and making a perfect three-point landing and the like, but they didn’t quite commit to it.


Uhhhh you might want to skip tonight’s episode.


I’m definitely enjoying the season more than you, but there’s a high degree of difficulty here nonetheless.
It’s interesting that they’re doing so much in London. Good for them!