I mean, today, we use shuttle pretty broadly, to refer to anything from buses to a space vehicle that went to the ISS.

Not everyone works in Starfleet, so civilians might have a different definition of shuttle.

Firmly agree with you on that.

TLDR; Daystrom did bad stuff but under mental collapse, and it’s very much in part Starfleet Command’s fault.

I think also, as much as Daystrom had much responsibility for those deaths, it was not as intentional as something like slavery, genocide, or sexual assault. He was fundamentally in a state of psychological distress partially beyond his control. Depending on when Daystrom Institute was founded (touched on above), he may have had decades for rehabilitation and redemption.

Additionally, Starfleet command probably had ample opportunity to avoid this very early on, like:

• Looking over Daystrom’s reports to consider potential risks of using engram imprints in a manner similar to a university’s Institutional Review Board - (Though perhaps Daystrom was rather secretive about it and kept it from reviewers.)
• Running the M-5 in simulations. We know the Kobiyashi Moru existed, so we could probably create a wide range.
• Not running the test on the Federation flagship, literally one of Starfleet’s most powerful weapons.

While it’s possible Starfleet took more precautions than we see onscreen, Commodore Wesley’s enthusiasm in “The Ultimate Computer” almost suggests an over-enthusiasm in Command, possibly one that caused them to skip necessary precautions. In fact, we had almost this exact scenario happen in Lower Decks “Trusted Sources”/“The Stars at Night” with the Texas class a century later. Ultimately, Starfleet Command likely bears a non-negligible amount of responsibility in the M-5 affair.

Of course, the above does not reduce the wrongness of Daystrom’s actions and perhaps only serves to deflect from the OP’s question. However, I feel Starfleet’s potential role combined with Daystrom’s mental condition may be mitigating factors that would make Richard Daystrom less unworthy of having an institution bear his name.

Good catch.

I would agree calling it a web crawler is inaccurate, but disagree with the reasoning; I think it’s more in the sense that calling an LLM a web crawler is akin to calling a search index a web crawler; in other words, an LLM could be considered a weird version of a search index.

It looks like this rulebook was released 2 months before the Discovery episode.

Honestly, I think I’d personally consider the Disco naming a canon goof up - Daystrom was only 37 years old at that point. While he’d certainly done a lot in his career by then, it still feels weird to name such a major part of Starfleet Federation research (thanks OP) after him when he’s still relatively young.

I think my headcannon, and a reasonable retcon in my opinion, is that there was a predecessor organization to Daystrom, somewhat like how there was NACA before there was NASA. When Discovery mentions Daystrom, they should actually be mentioning the predecessor organization.

This is firmly Memory Beta canon, but this bit from the Star Trek Adventures Core Rulebook still feels like an interesting addition to this conversation:

This might be right. I mean, Migleemo also doesn’t wear a standard uniform:

Ubuntu doesn’t deserve Uhura. 🤣

But in all seriousness, guess I’m a Denobluan now, minus the polyamory.

I view satirical voice impression and speech synthesis of a real person as two different ethical issues entirely.

I find impressions intended for satire fall within the real of the first amendment, while the latter can be an unwelcome appropriation of identity when done wrong.

I mean, the creator of Dilbert is basically option 2 incarnate in the most terrifying way possible, so it makes sense.

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/26/1159580425/newspapers-have-dropped-the-dilbert-comic-strip-after-a-racist-rant-by-its-creat

It was actually an attempt to use indirect characterization - by using “lasers” instead of “phasers”, it shows that the demographic I am describing only pays attention to the superficial aesthetic of Star Trek rather than its meaning or even common technical terms in the show.

But still, I derive quite a bit of humor from your comment.

Oops.

There’s 2 kinds of people in Trek fandom:

1. The sane people who know Berman sucks and her outfit is a known unfortunate symptom - we just pretend Seven had real clothes.
2. “I liiiike Seven of Nine” - creepy gen X white guys who just watch Trek for boobs and lasers.

I haven’t gotten all the way through it yet, but I have very occasionally come back to it as a hobby project over the past year because I have been trying to collect a dataset of Majel’s lines in order to train a text to speech voice.

Usually, I’d find that a bit unethical, but in this case, they literally tried to collect a dataset before she died, which I think is as close to consent to such a reproduction as most passed actors could give. Also, it’s mostly for fun for something like HomeAssistant on Raspberry Pi.

While DS9 quality is an issue, I think Keevan is just a PS1 character- a beautiful one.

I find Pegasus a decent episode. I think that while utopian aspiration is a fundamental tenet of Star Trek, I think it’s a bit reducto e to call it completely a show about perfect humans.

Heck, from the get go we had Garry Mitchell doing pyscho god stuff and Charlie X groping people, and a captain who sacrificed his crew to the weird space Romans so he would survive.

I think in truth, Star Trek is both about the best humanity can be and how the best in humanity can overcome the worst in humanity - you can’t exactly do that without episodes where the protagonists or the Federation makes mistakes, sometimes small and sometimes on the magnitude of Pegasus.

In many ways, DS9, darker as it is, feels the most Trek - a team of very different people with different beliefs overcoming/respecting their differences and forming a beautiful community despite the folly and evil around and within them.

Can you give more info about what you tried (commands, GUIS, etc)? What does it say when it denies your request?

Also, timezones usually go by cities - I for instance, I’m on AZ time as well, and the time zone for me is called America/Phoenix.

To be fair, not everything is played for laughs - I’d say pretty much every season finale gets moderately serious. I also think the Orion world building was top notch.

I enjoyed the crossover before I watched Lower Decks and still enjoy it, but I also feel like the way the characters were written at times reduced them to their basic archetype without the character development they would have had at that point in Lower Decks. I mean, it somewhat makes sense - probably a good idea to assume not everyone had watched Lower Decks and give an idea of who these people are - but I wonder if it could have been executed a bit better on that front.

Suffice it to say, I think late Lower Decks itself actually contains better examples of their “toned-down” real selves.

The whole Gumato!