I like duckduckgo. I use a self hosted searxng mostly because I think it’s neat. I actually like ddg better, but I still use searxng cause I like selp hosting stuff.

I didn’t say they were smart

If you are interpreting what I said as a defence of AI, then this conversation is useless because you are deliberately misinterpreting it at best, or at worst being deceitful in your rhetoric. Good day.

Linux kernel devs use AI. This post is clearly that XFCE and Brian Tarricone are bad because AI bad. It is therefore hypocritical for commenters in this thread to continue using the Linux kernel if they are going to apply this standard consistently.

Because money

How easy it is to have maximalist positions on the internet, where they never have to come into contact with reality.

I suppose you’ll be moving off of Linux then, as the kernel devs have made their stance on AI quite clear.

Boycott of the Linux kernel when?

The above commenter was calling into question my character because I had just created my account today. The definition of ad hominem I’m familar with:

“Attacking a person’s character or motivations rather than a position or argument.”

The commenter seems to imply that because I created my account recently, that my argument is therefore somehow not valid. I would consider that the be an attack on my character or motivation, rather than addressing my position. Would you agree or no? May have been a bit of an editorial stretch on my part, but it certainly doesn’t call for you actually calling me names and insulting me. I’m just here for some banter. Your comment is obviously malicious, and I think you’re better than that.

Jesus man I’m a person with feelings, you don’t need to act like an asshole.

I can tell when I’m not welcome. I’ll see myself out.

Have a good day.

Now you’re being deliberately obtuse. I was quite clear with my criticism. You have chosen to ignore that and replace it with your own imagination. You seem like you have the ability to read, so I’m going to write off your characterization of me as “pro-AI” as hyperbole, because there’s simply no way that someone with a functioning brain could have arrived at that conclusion based on my argument.

I’ll spell it out one more time assuming you’re actually still willing to converse in good faith. This is a capitalism problem. Full stop. The incentive structure to build these exploitative systems is too great. It’s not a government problem (although that too is a huge part of it). It’s a private sector one, and the rot is so deep that this is basically the logical endpoint of our deeply corrupt and exploitative system. You posting “look at this fucking swine using AI to write code” does nothing the change the material conditions that make this so. Asking people to stop using AI will not work. It’s not because I think asking people not to use AI is dumb, or bad, but that it just simply doesn’t work. It’s not a judgement about you. It’s simply that it isn’t effective because it doesn’t scale.

So you can keep trying, and more power to you, I’m happy to be wrong, but it’s not gonna work. Go ahead and downvote me all you want, call me names, mischaracterize my argument all you want. At some point, continuing to do so is at best malpractice and at worst cynical virtue signaling.

Our economic model is built on death, hatred and white supremacy. It’s built on genocide and domination. This shit is baked in to the fucking core, man. It’s not going anywhere. This AI shit is a symptom, not the disease. You wnna fix this, you gotta do more than scold post FOSS devs for your lemmy army. That’s all I’m saying.

Come on now, you didn’t just cross post this over here without adding your own editorializing. We understand your take, it colors your opinion, thats ok. Don’t walk it back now. Own it.

Of course we can, but that’s not how history works. People do what they will do based on their conditioning and material conditions. Of course not always, but enough where we can derive conclusions. Scolding and finger wagging isn’t going to fix this problem. If you think one sliver of the population of Earth gives one single solitary fuck about reducing their carbon footprint, I have a bridge to sell you.

Look, I respect you and your take, I’m not trying to be an asshole. I just genuinely don’t think your approach is a viable method of achieving what you’re saying.

We’re not talking about you, you can do whatever you want. I’m talking about publicly naming and shaming developers for using what is now a widely accepted tool.

Your comment just so happened to grasp my attention. There’s simply no need to resort to ad hominem.

Is the BP oil spill my fault because I drive a car to work?

How on Earth could you derive “I don’t give a shit” from “stand up to systems of oppression, don’t castigate individuals”? Do your eyes even work?

This type of name and shaming just doesn’t scale. You can’t recycle your way out of climate change. This type of thinking places the responsibility on the individual, who by very nature is essentially powerless and who’s individual actions have essentially no effect on outcome.

These types of sentiments don’t scale well into change, but it certainly allows the person making the post to feel good and to let others know they think the right things.

This virtue signaling needs to stop. Yes, the implications for AI are extremely dangerous and foolhardly. Taking out the pitchforks on Brian, an extremely talented and well regarded engineer in the FOSS world, is completely missing the point. It’s akin to blaming drivers of gas vehicles for global warming. The impetus for change are on the systems that put these things in place, not a FOSS dev building a WM. The incentive structure of limitless growth at all costs in the IT sector and the unfettered power projection of capital are to blame here. Until you’re willing to do something to stand up to that, then we’re all just waving our dicks in the wind here. Posting is not praxis.

We get it, you correctly arrived at the conclusion AI is bad. Welcome to the club. Brian Tarricone is a professional and I have no reservations of the quality of this code. You might as well boycott the linux kernel because guess what, AI generated code is in there too.