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fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 10 months ago

Interspecies linguistics

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fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 10 months ago
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    Only humans have language. Inter-species communication is nothing special. Rattlesnakes are named for their ability to communicate cross species.

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      “Either back it up or get fucked up.”

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      curious how it’s always humans saying that they’re the only ones who have language…

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        it’s only humans capable of the sub communication protocol called English that says that

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          No other languages have evolved to say that.

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            Exactly, other languages would use something like “Det är bara människan som utvecklat tal” or “Es ist nur der Mensch, der die Sprache entwickelt hat” depending on language

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      Only humans have language.

      Animal language.

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      They identified nouns and adjectives in prairie dog communication, that also seems to vary with regional dialects. I’ll try to remember to dig up a source when I’m not out and about later.

      Edit: here’s a not fully scientific link, but has names and links for people who want to go deeper in the science while being a decent lay person’s overview.

      Yes, the blog name isn’t very scientific looking (I have not read anything else on it). https://thehumanevolutionblog.com/2015/08/18/a-career-studying-the-sophisticated-vocabulary-of-prairie-dogs/

      And here’s a peer reviewed study: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003347205801174

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        Weren’t science communicators talking about parts of speech in whale communication last year, too? They’re using AI to identify patterns and variations in speech.

        Here’s a general (though older) overview of whale language: https://www.britannica.com/explore/savingearth/the-language-of-whales

        Here’s a more recent article taking about using AI to identify patterns in speech: https://scitechdaily.com/ai-decodes-sperm-whale-language-revealing-a-complex-system-of-communication/

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        I appreciate your disclaimers and context of your sources.

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        deleted by creator

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          Okay, I’ll bite.

          Why isn’t it language? And how do you define that a method of communication qualifies to be called a language?

          Also, what would you call a method of communication that lies somewhere in between “follow the pheromones” and “modern human comms”?

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          What’s your definition of language?

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      What is this strange group on Lemmy that is so anti animal intelligence?

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      A rattlesnake can certainly communicate using sound, but is that language? Bright colors can communicate ideas of “do not eat this” across species as well, but they wouldn’t fit my mental model of a language.

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        what is language than making sounds to convey meaning and then decoding said sounds to understand their meaning

        human language is incredibly complex but a bee just buzzing a particular buzz that means “bear nearby” counts as a valid form of linguistic communication imo

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          Bees actually dance to communicate and it’s considered a language 😄

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      Koko the gorilla would beg to differ

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        Just gonna drop this, I haven’t done a deep dive in sources thoufh

        https://youtu.be/e7wFotDKEF4?si=earmcx6FpV4PLDfN

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          Don’t leave your SI lying around like that

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