This weekās ābreakthroughā in ceasefire negotiations to end the genocidal campaign against Gaza came, according to regional sources, after a single intervention by US president-elect Trumpās designated envoy Steve Witkoff in which he ordered Netanyahuās government to capitulate.
While we might be skeptical of Trumpās habit of claiming credit for any progress, it was corroborated by the far-right members of the Netanyahu government erupting into the kind of tantrum for which they are now world-famous, framing the deal as a disaster imposed on āIsraelā by the incoming administration.
In the aftermath of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, Biden, while parroting āIsraelāsā atrocity propaganda about beheaded infants in ovens, gave Netanyahu a carte blanche to declare total war on the people of Gaza. As the unique scale of the atrocities in the Strip became clear, Biden proceeded, through his spineless UN ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield, to provide diplomatic cover for the genocide at the Security Council.
In June, Biden lied that a ceasefire deal had finally been reached, that it was at the initiative of the Netanyahu government, and that the Israeli leadership had accepted it. Secretary of State Antony Blinken clownishly trumpeted this falsehood, along with the claim that the only impediment to the ceasefire was Hamasā refusal of its terms. It was well known at the time to be a lie, but the breakthrough of the last week confirms it beyond all doubt.
The us president canāt order Israel without some kind of threat. Thatās not a threat. I bet Biden never said āstop I want to win this electionā to Israel. Trump did call Israel during the election and said likely said ākeep going I want to win this electionā
Edit: I said threat, but there could also be an offer. What did he offer or threaten that Biden didnāt? Or was it just the same, but Israel would not see the way or on the horizon?
Lol yeah, poor powerless POTUS just had no leverage to threaten Israel. Christ BlueAnon liberals are coping hard, this ceasefire has really broken your brains
I didnāt say he was powerless. I said what leverage did Donald Trump use that joe Biden didnāt and you cannot answer me. What beyond asking please did he do!
I donāt know what specific piece of leverage he invoked, given that Israel is almost entirely reliant on the US to exist, it could be a lot of things: maybe he threatened to stop sending tens of billions in arms, maybe he threatened to withdraw USA military assets from Israel and Yemen. Maybe he threatened to stop protecting Israel from international law. Maybe he threatened to side with the International Court. Maybe he threatened sanctions, maybe he threatened an embargo. Maybe he threatened to deploy the US military to drive Israel out of Gaza.
The US has near infinite leverage over Israel, the fact that Biden refused to use it, because he supports Israel and itās genocide, doesnāt change that.
Or maybe he didnāt use any additional leverage and just pulled a Ronald Reagan. Or maybe he did use a form of leverage you arenāt mentioning, offered to give them something when they stop, which a. Wouldnāt necessarily be bad but also b. Wouldnāt necessarily be mutually exclusive with pulling what Reagan did with Carter.
No.
Carter did not spend the year before the election aggressively supporting Iran, sending Iran billions in weapons, deploying the USA military to defend Iran, and shielding Iran from the international community and international law. Reagan could not force him to do that, just like Trump could not force Biden to do that. Biden chose to do that.
What leverage does your boss use at work when they order you to do stuff?
Only the most terminally unserious, most Morning Joe-pilled liberals believeāor claim to believeāthat Biden couldnāt have ended the genocide at any time over those 15 months.
Thereās no need to hypothesize when weāve seen a president stop Israeli aggression with a phone call before.
I did not say he couldnāt, I said trump got in the way. Then I asked what did trump do now that joe Biden didnāt the past six months after Donald called Bibi last year. Why didnāt he do this two months ago. And you bring up Reagan. Itās like you know about Mr. Keep the hostages until Iām in office.
Lol, the absolute state of BlueAnon Biden simps. Theyāre now seriously trying to argue that Trump somehow forced Biden to keep sending Israel weapons, vetoing every resolution against them, and generally do everything he could to protect them.
You know maybe nothing would have changed if trump hadnāt contacted them before the election. I can give you that. Maybe theyād still be doing and there wouldnāt be a ceasefire if things had gone differently. But also, maybe this could have happened months ago had those calls not taken place. And maybe this could have happened months ago had he called after the beginning of November. After all, it just took one phone call right? I donāt know everything hypothetical. And now there is a ceasefire for the moment, which is good.
No, it couldnāt. Because Biden made no effort to secure a ceasefire. It took one phone call, but Biden was not willing to make that phone call. The idea that Trump was somehow forcing Biden to keep sending Israel billions in arms for the past fifteen months is absolute brain-dead conspiracy on par with qanon.
I didnāt say that Donald Trump forced the weapon shipments. I said he could have told Israel to not negotiate until now. Iād say itās a brain dead idea that Biden never said āstop itā once. Those weapon shipments will continue now regardless, and now the genocide will just be moved back to a cold phase until something happens,or it is complete.
The POTUS doesnāt need to ānegotiateā with Israel: Israel relies on the USA for its existence. If Biden told them āstop itā and they refused, he would have cut support and forced them to stop it.
But he didnāt, because he is a fanatical supporter of Israel.
But of course youāve already had this explained to you multiple times, your brain just refuses to accept it because itās been completed fucking broken by your team losing the election and itās in full on cope mode.
Israel couldnāt have gone until the election without him? I donāt know how much they have in store, but I assumed it was significant. Maybe Iām wrong there. They probably wouldnāt have gone as hard, but there was no guarantee they would stop. There is certainly something different about trump saying stop it and Biden saying it. Are you assuming itās that Trump attached it to shipments? I donāt know what is different myself. It could be several things. Iām not discounting the possibilities. He says itās his manly voice, and while that drips with sarcasm, I mean it could be? Maybe bidens a wimp and that was the difference. Butā¦ Iām also not discounting possibilities that disagree with that.